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Next Explorer to fail Acid test
Cnet ^ | August 1, 2005 | Paul Festa

Posted on 08/01/2005 6:07:16 PM PDT by Panerai

Microsoft's new Internet Explorer 7 browser won't pass a stringent standards test that rivals have embraced.

In its browser blog, Microsoft acknowledged that IE 7 would not pass the Web Standards Project's Acid2 test, which examines a browser's support for W3C (World Wide Web Consortium) recommendations including CSS1 (Cascading Style Sheets), HTML4 and PNG (Portable Network Graphics).

"We will not pass this test when IE7 ships," Chris Wilson, lead program manager for the Web platform in IE, wrote in the IE blog. "We fully recognize that IE is behind the game today in CSS support. We've dug through the Acid2 test and analyzed IE's problems with the test in some great detail, and we've made sure the bugs and features are on our list--however, there are some fairly large and difficult features to implement, and they will not all sort to the top of the stack in IE7."

Standards advocates and Web developers have criticized Microsoft for letting Internet Explorer go without a significant upgrade for years. This spring it became clear that Microsoft would finally address long-standing standards-compliance issues in its planned version 7 upgrade.

Microsoft last week came out with a test, or "beta" version, of its Windows Vista operating system and IE 7.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.com ...


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: ie; internet; internetexplorer; longhorn; microsoft; vista; webbrowser; windows; xp

1 posted on 08/01/2005 6:07:17 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai

Eye Roll Please......


2 posted on 08/01/2005 6:10:21 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: Panerai

Doesn't matter what they do - we're all on Firefox now.


3 posted on 08/01/2005 6:13:10 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Panerai

What sense does it make to release a product that doesn't measure up?


4 posted on 08/01/2005 6:17:33 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: teletech

Doesn't that describe a few MS products :-)


5 posted on 08/01/2005 6:18:42 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai

I guess if you haven't got any good Mac news, you may as well trash MS.


6 posted on 08/01/2005 6:19:08 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Hank Rearden
Firefox Thread
7 posted on 08/01/2005 6:23:07 PM PDT by MarkeyD (I really, really loathe liberals.)
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To: teletech
"What sense does it make to release a product that doesn't measure up?"

IMO they don't want to measure up. More people use Internet Explorer than any (all?) other browsers. Why should M$ spend their time playing catch up when they are already #1? They would rather set standards than follow them. It's their way of thumbing their noses at the competition.

8 posted on 08/01/2005 6:26:48 PM PDT by HangThemHigh (Entropy is not what it used to be.)
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To: Panerai
Maybe I should forget about using IE to test a couple of small web sites I maintain.
9 posted on 08/01/2005 6:27:09 PM PDT by upchuck ("If our nation be destroyed, it would be from the judiciary." ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: teletech
"What sense does it make to release a product that doesn't measure up?"

Do you know what the test's is? Really?

It is if the standards for browser functions and display meet the guidelines set down buy the W3C. MS was wrong for not upgrading IE but than again they also are overwhelmingly used by the majority of the surfers on the web.

Considering who has the majority of the users, I would think that the other browsers meet the standards of IE... anything else is just gravy.

Oh and Firefox is not perfect either. It does not display many sites properly either. The tabs are cool though.

Nothing to see here, move along.
10 posted on 08/01/2005 6:30:41 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: Panerai

I see no mention of any browser that passes the Acid Test.

BTW, FireFox has a few more bugs in it than Explorer...

This article does little more than to mindlessly bash MS.


11 posted on 08/01/2005 6:33:29 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, come Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: HangThemHigh
IMO they don't want to measure up. More people use Internet Explorer than any (all?) other browsers. Why should M$ spend their time playing catch up when they are already #1? They would rather set standards than follow them. It's their way of thumbing their noses at the competition.

The trouble with this kind of thinking is that to remain #1, you must build a better mouse trap or be prepared to find yourself in a game of catch up. Resting on your laurels will NOT cut it! NO company is to big to topple.

12 posted on 08/01/2005 6:33:51 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Hank Rearden

The open source model is superior to in-house software development when applied to infrastructure products.

Releases are every 6 months and validated by a dedicated group of talented user/developers numbering in the 1000s and scattered about the globe.

You can't beat that when it comes to code stability, innovation and rapid issue resolution.


13 posted on 08/01/2005 6:35:57 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: teletech

MS is betting their GUI is superior to the point where swithing costs are sufficiently high to allow them to release an inferior product knowing the market will stick with them.

Honestly, I don't know how long this can go on. Open source applications are more difficult (but not impossible to) gain competitive advantage over in-house designs due to the lack of critical mass developer/users (word processor users don't typically have deep programming knowledge or a need to improve on whats out there).

Crazy Prediction: MicroSoft will lose the infrastructure game, but continue to win in the integrated suited of productivity related applications areana.


14 posted on 08/01/2005 6:43:11 PM PDT by Eddie01
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To: cabojoe
"I guess if you haven't got any good Mac news"....

When is there ever any good Mac news? Don't worry though.. I am sure we all saw that Apple gave up and is going to use a lot of Intel chips in it's future systems.

In a few years Apple computers will run either OS anyway. It is probably better that way, after all what was going to happen when Steve decides to quit next time?

A bit hard to run a MS Excel or Access on an IPod.
15 posted on 08/01/2005 6:47:04 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: JSteff

I was checking out IE 64 last night...pretty darn fast, just needs some plugins and it'll be killer. I'll stick with Firefox until then.


16 posted on 08/01/2005 6:49:53 PM PDT by cabojoe
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To: Eddie01
MS is betting their GUI is superior to the point where swithing costs are sufficiently high to allow them to release an inferior product knowing the market will stick with them.

Honestly, I don't know how long this can go on. Open source applications are more difficult (but not impossible to) gain competitive advantage over in-house designs due to the lack of critical mass developer/users (word processor users don't typically have deep programming knowledge or a need to improve on whats out there).

Crazy Prediction: MicroSoft will lose the infrastructure game, but continue to win in the integrated suited of productivity related applications areana.

I use Microsofts IE and generally support their products but they remind me of the runner who is leading the race by a lap and sees no reason to look behind him.

17 posted on 08/01/2005 6:54:26 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: Hank Rearden

Nope ! Still OPERA


18 posted on 08/01/2005 6:54:40 PM PDT by stylin19a (In golf, some are long, I'm "Lama Long")
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To: teletech

When things got going in the marketplace with word processors, WordPerfect was the MASSIVE leader. It had 95% market share. Microsoft came along and bought Word from a tiny little company and tried to rebuild it to a little bit better. They succeeded. WordPerfect corporation decided to delay doing a Windows version. MS came out with a new Windows version of Word. WP had to play catch-up. They came out with a half-hearted effort at a Windows release. It was buggy, unstable and caused Windows 3.0 to actually be WORSE than it was before, if you can believe that. By the time they came out with a workable Windows version, they had 25% of the marketshare, and shortly later, had to sell the company. It's been sold at least 4 more times since. The simple moral is you can't wait for the world to catch you, they build too much momentum and sweep you under the rug.

Paul


19 posted on 08/02/2005 4:28:35 AM PDT by spacewarp (Visit the American Patriot Party and stay a while. http://www.patriotparty.us)
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To: spacewarp
When things got going in the marketplace with word processors, WordPerfect was the MASSIVE leader. It had 95% market share. Microsoft came along and bought Word from a tiny little company and tried to rebuild it to a little bit better. They succeeded. WordPerfect corporation decided to delay doing a Windows version. MS came out with a new Windows version of Word. WP had to play catch-up. They came out with a half-hearted effort at a Windows release. It was buggy, unstable and caused Windows 3.0 to actually be WORSE than it was before, if you can believe that. By the time they came out with a workable Windows version, they had 25% of the marketshare, and shortly later, had to sell the company. It's been sold at least 4 more times since. The simple moral is you can't wait for the world to catch you, they build too much momentum and sweep you under the rug.

Paul

I remember those WordPerfect days when WP was THE word processor. I used it and thought highly of it UNTIL Microsoft Word became my word Processor of choice. Your point is well taken.

20 posted on 08/02/2005 10:28:12 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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