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Tancredo: "Stupid, Brazen and Uncivilized" By James Zogby)
Arab American Institute ^ | 8/1/2005 | James Zogby

Posted on 08/01/2005 5:40:42 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

By even suggesting that Mecca could be bombed in retaliation for a terrorist attack, Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) has made the world a more dangerous place. He is not alone, of course. Ironically, the Congressman has plenty of company among those who, either because of the evil they do or the stupid things they say, have endangered us all.

Now before I am attacked for establishing a moral equivalence between terrorist bombers and unthinking macho politicos, let me be clear: I know the difference. The sick malevolence that led to 9/11 (US), 7/7 (UK), and 7/23 (Egypt) is dramatically and immediately more evil than the lies that led the US and UK into Iraq or the hate-filled incitement practiced by religious extremists of all stripes. Right thinking innocents can reject and counter the latter, while we are all potential victims of the former.

At the same time, however, it would be wrong to ignore the ways the “evil doers” and the “stupid sayers” feed off of each other. They both prey on fear and anger and contribute to exacerbating the fear and anger that exists on both sides of the ever widening divide. Both the “doers” and “sayers” operate with absolute certainty and a sense of moral superiority. And both commit their deeds and utter their threats convinced not only of their righteousness, but impervious to the damage they do.

Look at Tancredo’s comments.

During a radio interview, the Congressman was asked what the US’s response should be if our cities were targets of a terrorist attack. He replied, “Well, what if you said something like, ‘If this happens in the United States, and we determine it is the result of extremist, fundamentalist Muslims, you know, you could take out their Holy Sites.’” “You’re talking about bombing Mecca,” clarified the host. “Yeah,” Tancredo affirmed.

I had the opportunity to debate Tancredo on CNN last week and was struck not only by his insistence that his remarks made America safer—presumably because he felt “terrorists” now knew we meant business—but also because of his inability to understand the damage that his remarks had done to our country.

He is after all, a Congressman and his words matter. When I reminded him that his words had reverberated all over the world, he seemed pleased. When I observed that the State Department had issued a strong rebuke (The State Department spokesperson said: “Such remarks…are insulting and offensive to us all. Speaking on behalf of the United States Government, let me say that we respect Islam as a religion, we respect its holy sites…”), he insulted and dismissed the State Department. And when I noted that there was no logic, no proportionality, and no moral justification for threatening to bomb the holiest city of over one billion Muslims, he rejected this as “political correctness.”

Like demagogues everywhere, Tancredo is performing. He is in search of a constituency and will spare no effort to find one. He is, after all, running for President (having made more visits to New Hampshire and Iowa than any other 2008 aspirant), and like other right-wing nativist zealots before him, he is playing to an angry and fearful base that wants a “strong and decisive leader” to defend “us” against “them.”

Having done enough radio talk-shows on this issue and after reviewing a few of the e-mails I received after our CNN encounter, I know that there is a small hard-core constituency out there that wants that kind of champion.

What I also know from the vast majority of the e-mails I received and from the public criticism Tancredo has received from other elected officials and the press, is that should he run for high office, he will fail, as have other demagogues before him.

Where, then, is the danger? Certainly not in the sense that anyone responsible for US policy would take Tancredo seriously. Rather it is that his words, coming as they do from a Congressman, do reverberate throughout the Arab and Muslim world and only serve to fuel fear and anger at America. Far from serving as the deterrent he intended, Tancredo’s threats will only play into the hands of extremists and encourage anti-American violence.

That is why I write. To make it clear that Tancredo’s brand of “America” is not, at all, American. His comments are the bluster of a weak and unthinking buffoon.

Ironically, Tancredo said it best a week earlier when he condemned a similar threat from a Chinese general. In response to Major General Zhu Chenghu’s threat to use nuclear weapons against the US should China be threatened, Tancredo responded, “For a senior government official to exhibit such tremendous stupidity by making such a brazen threat is hardly characteristic of a modern nation…”

“Stupid, brazen, and uncivilized.” That may be the smartest thing the Congressman ever said.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
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Thank God Zogby is not biased.
1 posted on 08/01/2005 5:40:43 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I'm sure being an Arab himself has not affected his sense of balance...


2 posted on 08/01/2005 5:42:04 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Tankredo was absolutely right, and Zogby could play a "Klein bottle" and shove himself up.


3 posted on 08/01/2005 5:42:59 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Zogby has really got to get across to his gumbahs in the Middle East that the only thing standing between them getting a new, glass parking lot in the vicinity of Mecca is "W".

Seriously.

I don't agree with the idea myself.

4 posted on 08/01/2005 5:43:19 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Here is what Tancredo actually said.

HERE

5 posted on 08/01/2005 5:43:44 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: GSlob
Tancredo is right on target, if you don't mind the pun.
6 posted on 08/01/2005 5:43:59 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: JustAnAmerican

ping!


7 posted on 08/01/2005 5:44:16 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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Tancredo would make an awesome President. He is a man of principle and courage like no other.
8 posted on 08/01/2005 5:44:32 PM PDT by Now_is_The_Time (They hate us because we're better.)
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Ya Think??

(from bio)

Dr. Zogby is also active professionally beyond his involvement with the Arab American community. He currently serves on the Human Rights Watch Middle East Advisory Committee and on the national advisory boards of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Immigration Forum, and is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. In January 2001, he was selected by the President to be a member of the Central Asian-American Enterprise Fund and serves on its Board of Directors. Additionally, he recently attained a position with polling firm Zogby International as Senior Analyst.

In 1975, Dr. Zogby received his doctorate from Temple University's Department of Religion, where he studied under the Islamic scholar Dr. Ismail al-Faruqi. He was a National Endowment for the Humanities Post-Doctoral Fellow at Princeton University in 1976, and on several occasions was awarded grants for research and writing by the National Endowment for the Humanities, the National Defense Education Act, and the Mellon Foundation. Dr. Zogby received a Bachelor of Arts from Le Moyne College. In 1995, Le Moyne awarded Zogby an honorary doctoral of laws degree, and in 1997 named him the college's outstanding alumnus.

9 posted on 08/01/2005 5:46:13 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Correct link:http://aaiusa.org/wwatch/washington_watch.htm


10 posted on 08/01/2005 5:47:50 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Now_is_The_Time
Tancredo would make an awesome President. He is a man of principle and courage like no other

Yeah like tancredo running to the liberal press and saying Tom Delay should step aside.

JMO, he's a loud mouth and instead of putting the onus on the islamofascists, he put the spotlight on the most important person to him, himself.

11 posted on 08/01/2005 5:48:22 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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"Tancredo would make an awesome President. He is a man of principle and courage like no other."

Heard a rumor that Tancredo was considering third party. Hope not; third party is how we got Bill Clinton, and third party is how we could get Hillary Clinton.

Hope he runs, but goes through the GOP primary process.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 5:48:42 PM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Why is a pollster who's livelihood depends of (supposedly) unbiased sampling writing an opinion piece?

Had he done a pole on it, he would have found that Tancredo simply said what millions and millions of Americans have already felt and thought for a long time.

Does Zogby really think we are going to send PC responses and effeminate protests to the homelands of the perpetrators of the next terrorist attacks? When Chicago becomes uninhabitable, does Zogby suggest we send a parking Meter Maid to make an arrest in Pakistan or Syria?

Tancredo was MARVELOUSLY effective (perhaps unwittingly) at putting the muslim world on notice. You need only review the "sweet peaceful Muslim" articles popping up all over the media as muslims finally start to realize there is a price to pay for silence and acquiescence to the terrorism served up from their mosques.
13 posted on 08/01/2005 5:49:23 PM PDT by konaice
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Zogby is a nutbag, seen his polls lately?

He says Tancredo is "Stupid, Brazen and Uncivilized"

I guess by that he means, be "Smart, Timid and Civilized" -Take your terror attacks like a Civilized People.


Que no?


14 posted on 08/01/2005 5:49:31 PM PDT by Capn TrVth
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Does Zoggy write stuff like this when the MOO-LAHs in Iran say they are going to attack 40 America cities if their nuke program is refered to the U.N. Hear crickets? Does Zog Master B complain about the various nuke threats made to us by his brothers in the long bearded smelly brigades?

No? Shocked? No...par for the course.


15 posted on 08/01/2005 5:49:59 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Tancredo said and did nothing wrong.


16 posted on 08/01/2005 5:50:23 PM PDT by afnamvet (Jet noise...The Sound of Freedomâ„¢)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

This is Zogby from the Zogby polling firm, correct?


17 posted on 08/01/2005 5:50:25 PM PDT by rasblue (What would Barry Goldwater do?)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

I see all the Anti-American Muslims are out to get Tancredo. This is actually the OpenBorder folk's worst nightmare, if they come down on the side of Muslims like Zogby then they get justly labeled as Anti-American/Muslim Sypathizers and if they don't then these threads don't get cluttered with their spew. Either way Tancredo gets a lot of Publicity.


18 posted on 08/01/2005 5:50:36 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican (Americans hire Americans. Traitors hire Illegals.)
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What actually makes the world a more dngerous place?
1) The words of Congressman Tancredo.
2) The actions of Zogby's brethren.

The prosecution rests.

19 posted on 08/01/2005 5:51:54 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Crush! Kill! Destroy the heathen!)
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That is why I write. To make it clear that Tancredo’s brand of “America” is not, at all, American.

Ironically, neither is Zogby's.


20 posted on 08/01/2005 5:52:12 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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