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Nine-year-old Antonio Lopez, and two-year-old Erik Lopez were found beaten to death in their Dyer, IN home
1 posted on 08/01/2005 2:52:55 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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Good lord...prayers for the two youngsters.

I wonder if this is like Andrea Yates...overwhelmed, depressed, unhappy, and no one getting help for her until she finally snaps and kills the kids. Seems to me there might be warning signs...did no one see them, or did they ignore them?

Sad so tragic.


2 posted on 08/01/2005 2:56:13 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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Robert Lopez and other family members and neighbors say Magdalena Lopez had been suffering from mental illness in recent months

If that is the case they need to charge robert with murder also. He knew she was nuts and left the children alone with her.He is as guilty of murder as she is and they both need to be executed

3 posted on 08/01/2005 2:56:31 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (I WONDERED WHY THE FRISBEE WAS GETTING BIGGER AND BIGGER... THEN IT HIT ME)
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mental illness? It's always mental illness when a woman kill her kids, haven't we noticed?

The reason is that:

1. Had the man tried to stop her, it would have been domestic violence, zero tolerance policies againstany unPC "bloodshed" oblige.

2. Women are always right, except when sick, you know.

The government and the media always thus resort to "mental illness" and so do the women. It makes it convenient to hide the fact that the government is responsible for those murders by restraining men from checking women's authorities in matters of life and death, terrorism, violence, manners, indescent exposure, marital infidelities, abortion and even in the professional arena they get to never be criticized - a convenient thing and agreement between governments wishing not to be criticized either.

I see again here through "mental illness" yet another proof that feminism helps deresponsiblize government and investigative reporting... and we are suprised 911 occured and none got fired after this!?


5 posted on 08/01/2005 3:02:21 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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I can testify to the other side of the equation. I had a friend who was suffering from depression, and had a sudden impulse to suicide with her very sick son.

She called me, and I told her she needed to go to a doctor asap. She did, because she wanted help and she really was a great mother. The short story is DCF made her life a living hell. The took away all her children, and the judge actually, on their advice, told her husband if HE ever wants to see his children again he MUST divorce his wife. And he was not allowed to talk to her about it on the phone. He was not allowed to talk to her at all, period. By judges order.

They threw her out of her house. Yhey put her in jail. They took her kids. They told her she wasn't a victim, just her children were. She was not entitled to see her kids, not even with supervision. These children are the center of this woman's existance.
They forced the kids into another school.

She did everything they asked and they were just openly hostile to her. At one point, they told her she wasn't allowed to even talk to her girlfriends, because they knew her children, and "something might pass over".

Her legal bills were huge. She needed three attorneys because it is three different areas of law. She had no money. She had no place to live. (I took her in). She worried incessantly about her children.

When I think of her, I think of Ronald Reagan's line - "The scariest words you ever hear are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

All this because she requested help from the doctor, because she knew she had a problem, and wanted to fix it.

The point I am making is, how can you go for help, or confide you need it, if you know the state will swoop in and destroy your life? And her kids lives too.


9 posted on 08/01/2005 4:25:46 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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