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To: Sloth
Faith cannot be separated from science. Faith is based on acceptance of evidence. All science is built on faith in the observations of others.

That is a different type of faith than the one discussed in the article. Faith in a supreme being is a very different usage of the word than having faith that the toilet will flush when I press the handle.

Science relies on the usage of the word "faith" as laid out in definition #1 below. Creationists rely on the "faith" described in definition #2, #3, #4 or #5.

faith   Audio pronunciation of "faith" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fth)
n.

  1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
  2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
  3. Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
  4. often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
  5. The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.

140 posted on 08/01/2005 12:53:11 PM PDT by JeffAtlanta
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To: JeffAtlanta

Creationists don't have "confident belief" in the truth of their ideas?


146 posted on 08/01/2005 12:57:41 PM PDT by Sloth (History's greatest monsters: Hitler, Stalin, Mao & Durbin)
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To: JeffAtlanta; Sloth

discussing faith:

the faith I have in God is stronger and deeper than the faith you have in no god.


171 posted on 08/01/2005 1:17:18 PM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: JeffAtlanta; Sloth
Faith in a supreme being is a very different usage of the word than having faith that the toilet will flush when I press the handle.

In either case, faith has an object for which there is evidence. Faith and fact go hand in hand. Blind faith is another matter altogether. It is usually associated with a certain rock . . . band.

288 posted on 08/01/2005 3:32:17 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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