Let's Have No More Monkey Trials - To teach faith as science is to undermine both

Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Aug. 01, 2005 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

[Selkie]

Are you sure you're not confusing this with something your pastor said about evolutionists?>>>>

I clearly chastized BOTH sides.

[WildTurkey]

I clearly chastized BOTH sides.

But you clearly misrepresented the position of one side.

[Selkie]

God I love that silly little thing so much !

[Selkie]

Nope

[WildTurkey]

YES! You have portrayed the evolutionists as "Godless" but have not been able to point to a single post in spite of your claims of having seen too many posts.

[WildTurkey]

Then where is your reply to my 698?

[spunkets]

Well a hypothesis is always a guess, but if it's not testable, it doesn't have the possibility of being theory. Testibility is implied buy the inclusion of "w/o proof".

[mwilli20]

You seem to have done a bit of research on the subject. I have a question you may be able to help with.

There is almost immeasurable variety in the species populating the planet. If they all evolved from one single original organism, I cannot account for why there is only one kind of DNA comprised of 4 molecules. Why has DNA not evolved into various forms some more advanced than others?

Is there any good reading on this subject? Thanks.

[Selkie]

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b85c16f4046.htm#13

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b85c16f4046.htm#121

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b24e9ec4db1.htm#220

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1433020/posts?page=338#338

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b24e9ec4db1.htm#198

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b85c16f4046.htm#148

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b85c16f4046.htm#124

There are plenty more over the years.

Just google Evolution, God, Creationists and Free Republic.

[WildTurkey]

I looked at the top one on your list. It was not a "Godless" post.

[WildTurkey]

In fact, he even capitalized "God". That is not a "Godless" post.

[bobhoskins]

Superman could SO beat up the Hulk.

[Selkie]

To: Walt Griffith
From the article:
Evolutionary theory has big problems when attempting to explain the existence and complexity of the Bombardier Beetle. Each state in the evolution of its special chemicals would have led to its destruction.

So now the creationists have alleged two critters as "proof" of their "Six days of magical creation, Snake in the Garden, Noah's Ark, etc." portfolio of miracles. First the platypus. and now the Bombardier Beetle. The platypus "miracle" seems to have dribbled away. We are left with this beetle. Interestingly, the fact that this unique insect plays around with such dangerous chemicals is probably a good argument for evolution. If it were all that easy for mutations to develop such a system, it would be far more common. One can well imagine all the blind alleys that evolution has taken, which never worked out. In hundreds of millions of years, and untold billions of mutations, it seems that only one managed to thread the needle. Like all other examples of the "fallacy of retrospective astonishment," this one fails to convince.

If God wants to announce his existence with indisputable evidence, He can surely do better.

13 Posted on 08/24/2001 12:36:09 PDT by PatrickHenry
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[Selkie]

WildTurkey has decided you believe in God after all.

[Rockingham]

The problem for atheism, whether in hard or soft form, is not so much an unwillingness to join organizations as that atheism seldom endures, either in individuals or from one generation to the next. In evolutionary terms, atheism is a cultural dead end, lacking the fitness necessary for longterm direct propagation. It recurs though, like some recurrent defect or pathogenic illness that reduces fertility but persists through new recruitment instead of direct propagation.

Saying that faithful rural communities are "more cohesive" is another way of saying the same thing. Calling that "apples to oranges" is a recognition of my point, not a refutation. Thoroughgoing atheists tend to move to large urban areas and not have kids, while the faithful tend to have them and seek the safety and ease of large backyards and lower crime rates.

[WildTurkey]

I looked at your second post. I see your problem. These are not "Anti-God" posts. You have a problem thinking that anyone that doesn't think or speak like you is "anti-God". That is not true.

[WildTurkey]

And your point is?

[bobhoskins]

In evolutionary terms, atheism is a cultural dead end, lacking the fitness necessary for longterm direct propagation.

You are limiting this statement to humans, right? :)

[Selkie]

Nope