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Feds make more than 500 gang arrests
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 8/1/05 | Lara Jakes Jordan - AP

Posted on 08/01/2005 9:37:49 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: Baynative
Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff called the gangs "a threat to our homeland security and ... a very urgent law enforcement priority."

I think creating this position was a good idea and that Chertoff is the right man for the job. Another Bush win that we often overlook.

22 posted on 08/01/2005 10:02:44 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Travis McGee

His total vote was 289,116 out of a population of 3.8 million. Hahn got 204,000.

Actually amazingly close considering that LA is so liberal.


23 posted on 08/01/2005 10:04:13 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: NormsRevenge
Never mind locking up the border to prevent these vermin from getting here....

But then again, that would be logical thinking to Homeland UNSecurity....

24 posted on 08/01/2005 10:06:15 AM PDT by kstewskis ("I don't know what I know, but I know that it's big..." Jerry Fletcher)
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To: kellynla
and if anyone is wondering what is being done about it? NADA, NOTHING, ZIP, ZERO!!

It seems particularly absurd to me that you would say this on a thread that clearly shows that something is being done about it. Maybe you thing not enough is being done but you know nothing about what is going on behind the scenes. It is easy to be a Keyboard Rambo and insist on immediate solutions to difficult problems but it does nothing to solve the problem. It only underminds those who are trying to solve it.

Maybe we can get DFU to compose us a fight song called "I'm a Keyboard Rambo" and dedicate it to you and yours.

25 posted on 08/01/2005 10:07:39 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: eleni121
How many of the 4-5 million Los Angelenos are illegal aliens?


26 posted on 08/01/2005 10:09:40 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Arresting 0.000001% of the criminal invaders swamping the USA is merely a token PR gesture, empty symbolism.


27 posted on 08/01/2005 10:11:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is a truly frightening story. Especially since I live in NC, where we have the fastest growing illegal community in the nation.
28 posted on 08/01/2005 10:13:11 AM PDT by beeler ("When you’re running down my country, Hoss you’re walking on the fighting side of me.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Here in Indianapolis, they arrest these gang members, not all are illegal aliens, then the jails are too full and they release them on a low bond or on their own recognizance. Then they are back out committing more crimes.


29 posted on 08/01/2005 10:13:35 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Javelina

"The Crips and Bloods organizations are no longer organized or powerful enough to cause the kind of trouble that many of the Latin American gangs can cause."

Good grief. I guess I'm not a hep cat any more.


31 posted on 08/01/2005 10:23:59 AM PDT by dsc
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To: Travis McGee

I am of the opinion that the intent is sincere rather than symbolism. It may seem a drop in the bucket but this is an awfully complex problem. At least they are addressing it.


32 posted on 08/01/2005 10:25:33 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Please, these are just PR gestures, until we see an effective border fence put up.

With several MILLION invaders strolling in every year, these 500 gangsters are replaced every few hours.


33 posted on 08/01/2005 10:29:31 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I just thought of an analogy: An officer on the Titanic going down into the sinking ship, gets a bucket of seawater from the engine room, carries it up to the outside deck and holds a press conference.

"We are making progress! We are removing one gallon more of water than we took out last hour! This is a great improvement!"

34 posted on 08/01/2005 10:33:35 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: kellynla
We've got ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND GANGBANGERS!

You don't understand.

See, 40% of them are going to vote Republican according to the brainiacs in DC, so it will all be ok, somehow.

35 posted on 08/01/2005 10:35:50 AM PDT by skip_intro
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 4.1O dana super trac pak; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

ping


36 posted on 08/01/2005 10:37:35 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


37 posted on 08/01/2005 10:47:04 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Travis McGee

We have had many threads on this subject, discussed it each way from Sunday, and everyone has their opinions. It is a complex problem with no easy solution. However, it is being worked on. If it were simple the problem wouldn't exist.

As I have said, it is easy to be a Keyboard Rambo and say, "They should....!! I would....! They coulda, I woulda, etc." but actually doing it without creating other dislocations and getting it through the political maze is not easy. You must remember that the Democrats like the situation just as it is.

Although the gangs may be here illegally, law enforcement is a local problem. Some blue cities won't even arrest illegals when asked to by the feds but they scream for the feds to do something when the illegals becomes a problem. The purpose is to create a problem and blame it on the Republicans and Bush. They do the same with respect to the terrorists.

Just as the Democrats are exacerbating the problem with both illegals and the terrorists so are the Keyboard Rambos who demand action which can't easily be taken. That aids the Democrats, and I think we have several Democrat moles here on FR, by dividing support for the Republicans. The Republicans are not all we would like them to be but they are far, far better than the alternative.


38 posted on 08/01/2005 10:47:40 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: kellynla
Come to L.A.! We've got ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND GANGBANGERS! and if anyone is wondering what is being done about it? NADA, NOTHING, ZIP, ZERO!!

Correctamundo! We have one of those great "sanctuary cities".

39 posted on 08/01/2005 10:52:28 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Bailing with teaspoons is a waste of time, when our lifeboat has the bottom ripped out.


40 posted on 08/01/2005 11:05:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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