Posted on 08/01/2005 6:45:46 AM PDT by conservativecorner
Tough.
"That's not a profile, that's a generalization."
Yeah, but unlike your own profiling specification, not many are going to slip through the net. While it would be nice to satisfy your high minded notion of a proper profiling policy, I am not willing to risk another American life to satisfy your particular sensibilities.
It's coming because it has to. Get used to it.
Good point. I hadn't thought of that.
Plenty of racial profiling when the Beltway Sniper was gunning people down, what's the difference?
It can be logically argued (and it has been) that reasonable searches do not require a search warrant. Perhaps you have never heard of probable cause, but it does exist.
DAMN STRAIGHT BUMP!!
Supremes are the ones who made probable cause a reason to search without obtaining a warrant. It is unconstitutional and was not used in this country until the 20th century.
Even if you factor in probable cause, which, as I said, only exists in judges minds, carrying a bag is not probable cause. They are searching people at random, therefore are making warrantless searches without probable cause.
However, I think you missed the whole point of my post. My post said that if a person was going to view profiling as unconstitutional, then you would have to view the whole search your bag thing as unconstitutional. If we are going to step over the line we should make sure the searches accomplish something. Searching the bags of 85 yo white women will not turn up bombs. Searching the bags of middle eastern males between the ages of 17 to 60 MIGHT. AND in view of the fact that some women in Iraq and other areas carry weapons and bombs for the men, we might think about profiling middle eastern women also.
This is not RACIAL profiling, it is cultural profiling and is something that must be done if we are to keep ourselves from being blown up on a daily basis.
Calex59,
Although I don't have time to discuss each of your points right now, I do agree with your contention that profilling is not only reasonable, but neccessary.
"The demand for more profiling, by some, seems to have undertones of bigotry in it."
You call it bigotry, I call it self defense. You sound like one of those CAIR propagandists desperately trying to use our political correctness as a weapon against us. While the 'vast majority' of middle eastern people MAY be peaceful folks, they are besieged by an abhorrant ideology (Islam) that, with a little prodding, can influence the easily influenced to perform unspeakable acts. No, sorry, no sympathy here. Pitty for the misgueded perhaps, but that is all. These 'peace loving' people need to clean up their act from inside.
misgueded=misguided
We're fighting not only the enemy within (the Islamo-fanatical fifth column in our midst) but also the fellow-traveling collaborationists in academe, the main stream media, and the federal government.
Let's face it, Islam has been infected with a violent strain that more "moderate" Muslims are unable or unwilling to eradicate. If they want to live with cutthroats as neighbors in Krapistan, more power to them. I don't want to, and since we can't tell who the violent ones are by looking at them, there must be no more Muslim immigration to our country and we should begin mass deportations of Muslims.
Ok, then we will agree to disagree on the other points:)
Yeah and most of it was dead wrong, except for a few people who could think outside the box.
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