[rmmcdaniell]

Do you have any respect for other living things? To consider cruelty and torture something that should not be prevented by law is amazingly sick. I sincerely hope you do not own any pets. It sounds like you desire the 'right' to harm other things in any way you desire. That goes beyond libertarian and right into derranged. I fear for an animal's safety near you. And to think that you also believe that it's OK, or even proper, for children to witness such depravity!

Human life is sacrosanct. Animals have zero rights and any attempt to give them rights is based on emotion rather than logic. Why should you not be able to kill a dog, if you can kill the mouse chewing though food containers in your cupboard?

It is your types that want to equate animals with humans who's actions eventually leads to unspeakable acts committed upon people as the value of human life becomes meaningless. It is you who stand in the way of research to help people at the expense of "torturing" animals.

[lastchance]

I am not an animal rights activist. I support medical research that uses the humane guidelines established by peer groups of veternarians and researchers. I do not think a man and a dog are equal. I know sometimes it is necessary to put down an animal. I eat meat and see nothing wrong with people hunting for food or to keep down the overpopulation of some species such as deer. I do support humane treatment of animals. We were not given the right to be cruel to fellow creatures. Treating an animal in a humane fashion and condemning unneccessary cruelty shows respect for God's creation.

[doc30]

Animals have zero rights and any attempt to give them rights is based on emotion rather than logic.

Not according to every state and municipality in this country, and all other developed countries. You might not like the fact that it is against the law to torture animals, but it does mean that it is illegal to be cruel to animals. Drowning is cruelty. I suppose your objection to these laws is because you believe it's OK to torture any animal, even for fun. After all, you believe that it's your "right" to cause harm. So I guess lighting an animal on fire is OK, or pulling its limbs off or whatever other kind of deviant treatment is all right in your eyes.

These same laws also govern scientific research. Minimum standards and research necessity must be demonstrated and there are regulations in place, even for lab rats.

Like I said in my previous post, you have absolutely no respect for any life beyond your own. I am not some animal rights, PETA type. But someone who at least has the decency to know it is wrong to be cruel to animals unnecessarily.