[Celtman]

ESCR is a front for abortion justification.

      No, it's not.  Abortion is evil.  ESCR is evil.  People tend to oppose both, or support both.  But there is no real connection between the two.  And documenting the magnitude of the abortion evil is not relevant do a discussion of ESCR. 
      Nonsequitor in discussions irritates me. 

[DaveTesla]

Where do you think they get the stem cells?
From embryos and aborted fetal tissue.

Phony Christians irritate ME.

[supercat]

No, it's not. Abortion is evil. ESCR is evil. People tend to oppose both, or support both. But there is no real connection between the two. And documenting the magnitude of the abortion evil is not relevant do a discussion of ESCR.

I can see plenty of reasons why people who favor abortion and cloning would see ESCR as being a useful justification for those things. Given that ASCR has shown much more promise than ESCR, I see no other reason why any knowledgeable person would support ESCR. Perhaps someone can enlighten me.

Even if ESCR is successful, I see no way for any tangible benefits to be realized without creating (possibly via cloning) embryos for the purpose of slaughter. Even if there is an adequate supply of "expendable" embryos for research purposes, the supply would not be adequate for any treatments that went into production, especially when issues such as genetic matching are taken into account.