[Blzbba]

"Read my posts #76 and #95 carefully and tell me that people aren't
being duped about Embryonic stem cell research.

My point is it is futile unless you cross the line."



See, now that type of reasoned response, supported by links pointing to research, etc. is exactly why I'm not in favor of my tax dollars supporting this potentially dead-end pursuit. If Private Company, Inc. wants to put aside R&D money to do so, laissez-faire.


"Unless you don't think that growing fetuses for origin cell and organs is crossing the line."

As someone who's intimately familiar with the IVF process (seeing as how my twins are alive today 100% due to it), I can assure you that currently, no blastocysts (5-day old collections of cells may indeed be life, but it's not a fetus until it attaches to the uterine wall) are being grown and harvested for any other purpose than for couples DESPERATELY wanting to have their own children. This distinction is lost on the maniacal far-right who simply want to label anything of such a nature as 'abortion'.

The two sides of this argument will never EVER meet in the middle on this.

[DaveTesla]

You missed the point didn't you?

1. Embryonic stem cells come either from embryos in the
first few days after conception or from the developing
sperm and egg cells from aborted fetuses.(the big source)

2. Multipotent stem cells come from predominately aborted
fetus tissue because unlike embryonic stem cells which are
are pluripotent they differentiate into different cell
types of their tissue of origin therefore fetuses provide
the only source of cells or organs that will stay alive and develop.

3. The embryo does not need to be attached to a uterine
wall to become a fetus because the blood, oxygen and
nutrients can be supplied artificially.


Simply put it has to become a fetus to be of any use.


Ever read any works by Aldous Huxley?
Some of us know where this is leading.

[DaveTesla]

"This distinction is lost on the maniacal far-right who simply want to label anything of such a nature as 'abortion'."

It's evil, your just not wise enough to understand why.
(No, that is not an insult).

[DaveTesla]

"are being grown and harvested for any other purpose
than for couples DESPERATELY wanting to have their own children."


Fetus's aren't being grown and harvested for any other
purpose than for people DESPERATELY needing a new kidney or
heart."

There. I fixed it for you.