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Every one has heard of H.G Well's famous novel, The Island Of Dr. Moreau in which the mad scientist's namesake experiments foreshadowed the worst horrors of the 20th Century. We're barely a generation removed from Auschwitz and yet the same specter hangs over us like a Sword Of Damocles - that human life is expendable or least that some people lack sentience. We've seen that kind of reasoning in the Terri Schiavo saga. Some people can't communicate and since they look like inert vegetables, its easier to justify their murder. Welcome to the brave new world of 21st Century bioethics. And as Don Feder observes, thanks to Michael Bay's new movie, "The Institute", our new world of butchering embryos so others can stay alive, human cloning for spare parts and the killing of the undesirable may be much closer than your cineplex screens. (Its a great reason to see Michael Bay's newest flick and if you liked the heroic ending to Armageedon you'll appreciate this no holds barred look at our warped culture of death.) Its part of the New Order the Left is busy constructing. After all, if our values are subjective, there's no reason to treat all human life as a sacred gift of God.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
1 posted on 07/30/2005 7:56:20 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: Coleus

FYI


2 posted on 07/30/2005 8:03:33 PM PDT by Sun (Call U.S. senators toll-free, 1-877-762-8762; tell them to give Roberts an up or down vote.)
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To: goldstategop

Pinch me,I must be dreaming.


3 posted on 07/30/2005 8:06:10 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: goldstategop

Another notion I find interesting is that memories might literally become part of the person, are encrypted in his/her dna or "form" in some unknown way.


4 posted on 07/30/2005 8:16:22 PM PDT by RobbyS (chirho)
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To: goldstategop
My daughter referred to this movie as "futuristic". She's a smart girl.
Her friends didn't seem to get the Frankenstein message, but they're public school kids who have been programed for pro-death. It came so natural to them, they were bored by it. My daughter said the story went right over their heads. They thought nothing of cloning for body parts. It didn't even phase them.
The public school sends out thousands of these pro-death kids each year.
5 posted on 07/30/2005 8:17:10 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: goldstategop

Last week I posted a reply on another thread in which I wrote the reason the MSM was ignoring or trashing this film was because it is a very anti-cloning,anti-stem cell, anti-abortion,anti- organ harvesting film.

A.I. did not have the courage to stray from the metaphors,
Blade Runner and others had to have androids or Robots as the central characters.

The island, by being honest, informs you about where we are and where we are headed. Very scary...and very sad.


7 posted on 07/30/2005 8:28:13 PM PDT by TET1968
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To: goldstategop


8 posted on 07/30/2005 8:36:02 PM PDT by sayfer bullets
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To: goldstategop

"The Matrix" meets "Capricorn One".


9 posted on 07/30/2005 8:38:38 PM PDT by The Duke (You want fries with that?)
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To: goldstategop

Tag for later!


14 posted on 07/30/2005 9:18:48 PM PDT by RazorGhost
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To: goldstategop

Frankenstein medicine... an ecological disaster in the making... where are the environmentalists?


16 posted on 07/30/2005 9:50:21 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: goldstategop
'the island' is a crappy remake of the crappy "Parts: the Clonus Horror" from 1979 (you may have seen it on MST3K - episode 811).
18 posted on 07/30/2005 10:50:19 PM PDT by solitas (So what if I support an OS that has fewer flaws than yours? 'Mystic' dual 500 G4's, OSX.4.2)
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To: goldstategop

BTTT
God Bless you Gold
Pro-Life PING


19 posted on 07/30/2005 10:57:09 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: All

Oh...is it Benedict XVI instead of Rove now? Cool.
Trust me, they did it by mistake.
Must have driven by a church inadverently and something stuck.


20 posted on 07/30/2005 10:58:55 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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Moral Absolutes Ping.

Even if you don't have time to read a lot of the stuff I ping out, try to read this. Don Feder is great, I love that man.

Freepmail me if you want on/off this pinglist.


21 posted on 07/31/2005 12:48:33 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: big'ol_freeper
Liberal critics are grumbling about it.

Well then. That makes it must-see.

23 posted on 07/31/2005 4:23:19 AM PDT by Lil'freeper
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To: goldstategop

The show-stopper question for pro-abortionists is:

"What, exactly, is inside a woman's body before she gives birth?"

Allow no deviation or dissembling when - or if - a pro-abortionist - attempts to deliver an answer. In some cases, you'll get a scene reminiscent of one of Linda Blair's performances in the "The Exorcist."


25 posted on 07/31/2005 6:39:26 AM PDT by Noumenon (Activist judges - out of touch, out of tune, but not out of reach.)
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To: goldstategop
It sounds like this movie will become a cultural landmark.

Don didn't touch on the creation of human-animal chimeras, which is creepy as hell.

27 posted on 07/31/2005 6:48:41 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: goldstategop

Why clone the body when you can just clone the heart? Why bother to grow it inside of a human body when you can grow it inside of a pig or a cow or even a vat?


28 posted on 07/31/2005 6:51:32 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Rose in RoseBear
Excellent article regarding "The Island".
39 posted on 07/31/2005 9:13:40 AM PDT by Bear_in_RoseBear (Abolish NASA)
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To: goldstategop
A book of ancient wisdom contains these words:

"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.Proverbs 14:12

The words are restated almost verbatim in 16:25 - "There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."

A more recent writer observed: "Ideas have consequences." - Weaver

Sadly, the idea, or premise, of our Founding Declaration has disappeared from the curriculum of our so-called 'education' system--"Creator-endowed" life, rights and liberty. The happy "consequence" of the premise produced a bright light of liberty for oppressed people all over the globe, a consequence which has endured for over 200 years.

Another idea, or set of ideas, has replaced it, one which, failing to acknowledge either a Source ("Creator"), "Divine Providence," or accountability to a "Supreme Judge," provides no compass, no guide, and no standards by which to measure potential consequences.

Questions arise, therefore, as to who will determine rights, life, and liberty. If they are mere "grants" from some entity--parents, medical practitioners, scientists, or government officials, who decides who will live and who must be denied life, either before birth or years later? What may be the consequences for a society that excludes from public teaching and learning ideas contained in religious literature?

Consider the discussion contained in Dr. Vigen Guroian's lecture (Stevenson verse excerpted herein) here:

Moral Imagination, Humane Letters, and the Renewal of Society
by Vigen Guroian, Ph.D. Heritage Lecture #636

May 12, 1999

"Four reformers met under a bramble bush. They were all agreed that the world must be changed. `We must abolish property,' said one. `We must abolish marriage,' said the second. `We must abolish God,' said the third. `I wish we could abolish work,' said the fourth. `Do not let us get beyond practical politics,' said the first. `The first thing is to reduce men to a common level.' `The first thing,' said the second, `is to give freedom to the sexes.' `The first thing,' said the third, `is to find out how to do it.' `The first step,' said the first, `is to abolish the Bible.' `The first thing,' said the second, `is to abolish laws.' `The first thing,' said the third, `is to abolish mankind.'" - Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-1894), 'The Four Reformers'

40 posted on 07/31/2005 9:18:19 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: goldstategop

Very pro life movie - and damning of the effete leftist liberals who believe that the ends justify the means.

Several product placements but the only I disapproved of was Ben and Jerry's - especially considering they support pro abortion causes.


46 posted on 08/02/2005 1:22:57 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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