More American Retirees Seek Havens Abroad

NYTimes ^ | 7/30/05 | Hillary Chura

[qam1]

These days, some Americans heading for retirement are as concerned with pesos as pensions, and foreign language classes as Medicare. They are part of an emerging population expecting to spend their retirement abroad.

In January, baby boomers will start hitting 60 at a rate of more than four million a year. More mobile, active and adventuresome than prior generations, these 78 million Americans are rethinking retirement. Many will be lured overseas by a more affordable cost of living and temperate weather. Some will want to return to their native countries or to places where they once worked or studied.

Coreen Plewa and her husband, James, plan to move to Mexico in four years. They say they adore their home in Santa Fe, N.M., but will not be able to make ends meet once Mr. Plewa retires from teaching high school math. The Plewas and about 10 like-minded people have been meeting to discuss moves to Latin America.

"This is not like, 'I've got to get out of this hole,' " said Mrs. Plewa, who believes health care costs in the United States could eat up 40 percent of the couple's estimated $4,000 to $5,000 monthly retirement income. "We think our dime will go further."

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Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama are common retirement havens, but Nicaragua, Honduras, Ecuador and English-speaking Belize are making a push to attract retirees. Various countries in Europe are also viable alternatives, but current exchange rates make them less attractive for those with limited resources......

[Thinkin' Gal]

these people are gonna feel real stupid when that nice village they bought for their retirement in some god forsaken 3rd world country is claimed by the local socialist government for redistribution like in rowanda.

Or New London.

[BJungNan]

I think being at least one day's travel from an American ER would be too damned scary to contemplate. What has your experience been like?

I can't speak for Thailand, but in China that I definately know about, medical would seem to be concerns. It does have very good hospitals now and excellent equipment. But, the doctors are not yet well trained.

I'd think twice about surgery in Mainland China (and absolutely would never go to a hospital in Hong Kong).

But, in Mainland China you can get a top quality CAT SCAN and MRI (both) for about $300 (that's U.S. dollars). And on new, state of the art GE or German made equipment.

[MarMema]

Or New London.

Sadly true, of course. The two main points being raised here - health care and a safe government - are no longer trustworthy enough to justify fear over leaving, imo.

[dc27]

I live in Prunedale. Can't find a house under 700K anymore. Monterey is even more insane.

[Paul C. Jesup]

these people are gonna feel real stupid when that nice village they bought for their retirement in some god forsaken 3rd world country is claimed by the local socialist government for redistribution like in rowanda.

Tell that to the people of New London...

[danamco]

Exactly why we are looking into real estate in Georgia right now, having been there in May and fallen madly in love with the country.


---must have changed tremendously since I visited there a couple of times in the late fifties early sixties!??! No one could speak English, no not a single one except the thugs on the black market. One pair of ladies nylon stockings would pay for a nice dinner for two with caviar and champagne!!!

[danamco]

There are plenty of nice places I'd like to go to when I retire in about 10-15 years, but I prefer to be around my children and grandchildren. That's what's important to me.


---That is soooo true!
Trust me these adventurous baby boomer will soon or later come crawling back to the U.S. when reality kicks in for them after living there for a while, unless they are the types like Alec Ballwill(?) and Barbara Streisand who promised us to leave if Bush was elected!!
The U.S. is still the best place in the world to live in. And this comes from a former Scandinavian with the so called "best" welfare in the world but also a tax rate exceeding 50%!!!

[danamco]

"Humanna. It was going to cost my wife and I some $21,000 per year"



---WOW---we also have Humana, but it cost us around 75 bucks ($$) each per month taken out of our S.S. Medicare!!!

[Graves]

"That said I am going to be learning Georgian."

You'll have to at least learn the Georgian for Kyrie eleison.

Some good Georgian stuff at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/1865/

[raisincane]

Either way, mediterranean climate is the way to go in old age.
Exactly why we are looking into real estate in Georgia right now, having been there in May and fallen madly in love with the country.

We have decided Georgia will be our retirement home, too. We love it. We're looking in the SW; not far from the ocean, yet Lake Seminole is there for enjoyment. Cost of living is really affordable, too.

[ovrtaxt]

LOL!!!

Oh, I never thought of retiring there...

[qam1]

Exactly why we are looking into real estate in Georgia right now, having been there in May and fallen madly in love with the country.

I don't know, It doesn't look stable or safe

Georgia: Tension again on the rise in South Ossetia

[Texas_Conservative2]

at least the people of new london will get fair market value for their homes, in places like rowanda they just take your land and you get nothing, in fact your lucky if they just take your land ... and don't hack you to death with machettes just because your white.

[Paul C. Jesup]

A 'fair market value' where the government sets the value and where you lose a good chuck of the money in taxes is not a fair price, nor a fair deal.

[southland]

ping

[kcvl]

I suppose the NYT wants us to believe this is just some poor pitiful couple who is devastated by the "Bush economy" and can't live in the United States because of it. WELL, DUH! Caught again!


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[kcvl]

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(Civlib) SJM5 UPDATE: passed by Rules, on to Judiciary!

Coreen Plewa civlib@lists.global-dialog.org

Sat, 7 Feb 2004 11:58:39 -0700

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Marion,
I have left two messages on your phone. I guess you are pretty busy.
Please call me before Sunday evening.
Coreen ----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 3:08 PM Subject: Re: (Civlib) SJM5 UPDATE: passed by Rules, on to Judiciary!

I just spoke to the sec'y of the Judiciary Committee( having been referred by Sen Sanchez office) SJM 5 is not on the agenda this week and he will choose what goes on the agenda next week.

[kcvl]

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[kcvl]

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Plewa, Coreen Self employed/Psychotherapist 250 06/28/2003 DEAN FOR AMERICA - Democrat


Plewa, James Los Alamos High School/Teacher 250 08/26/2003 DEAN FOR AMERICA - Democrat