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To: MamaTexan
." An official government document that certifies one's identity and citizenship and permits a citizen to travel abroad."

So a citizen exists as they need a passport to travel.. as illegals by definition have no passport which has been approved for entry to USA they cannot claim rights as citizens..I assumed you were trying to show that Illegals have same rights/ more rights -than citizens.
66 posted on 07/30/2005 4:21:33 PM PDT by ConsentofGoverned (A sucker is born every minute..what are the voters?)
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To: ConsentofGoverned
So a citizen exists as they need a passport to travel..

Maybe I'm clarifying unnecessarily, but I'm not saying citizens don't exist.

I'm saying State Citizens exist. "United State citizen" is NOWHERE to be found in the Federalist Papers, the Constitution, or anything else I've read.

"United State citizen", is in fact, an artificial 'person' specifically constructed to *trick* us into the jurisdiction of the federal government. __________________________________________________

as illegals by definition have no passport which has been approved for entry to USA they cannot claim rights as citizens..

Nowhere does it say you MUST be a 'citizen' of any kind. The only reason to become one is to have the right to vote or run for an elected position.

You can be a resident WITHOUT being a 'citizen'....

In fact, you cannot have 'inalienable' rights and extend them only to citizens. If we are 'all created equal and endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights, they must, by that very definition extend to everyone.

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I assumed you were trying to show that Illegals have same rights/ more rights -than citizens.

Exactly! Because they are NOT "United State citizens", they have all the rights we are SUPPOSED to have, but don't!

80 posted on 07/30/2005 7:22:17 PM PDT by MamaTexan ( I am not a *legal entity*, nor am I a ~person~ as created by law.)
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