U.S. Judge Reduces 'Va. Jihad' Sentences

The Washington Post ^ | July 30, 2005 | Jerry Markon

[MizSterious]

You know, right now there are folks on Fox saying how they think the London bombings were just "testing the gear" for a big event in the US. Knowing this, we're still treating these terrorist killers (whether they personally murdered with their own hands or not) like they're juvenile delinquents who tipped over farmer Jones' out-house.

[lowbridge]

The Clinton legacy strikes again.

[popdonnelly]

I was thinking the other day about the German spies who got caught in the U.S. during World War II. They were sent to try to sabotage war production plants. At least one of them was caught, tried, and set to be executed. President Roosevelt insisted that the man be executed, as a warning and example of what would happen if this were tried again. I think this precedent is well worth considering today.

[mississippi red-neck]

to comply with a recent Supreme Court ruling that allowed judges more discretion on such issues.

Don't you just love our separation of powers.

Here we have one group of pin head judges giving another group of pin head judges the power to override the laws of Congress.

I expect any day for them to rule that the president and both houses of congress are unconstitutional.

It might not be a bad idea.

At least we wouldn't have to pay them while they're busy spending our money on their pork projects and the courts are already doing their jobs anyway.

[MizSterious]

Also the railroads. I know this because for many years, my Grandfather worked undercover to catch these spies. Many more were caught than the country ever learned about.

I didn't learn about his service until I was an adult. It was that secret.

[chgomac]

Not just clinton judges do this. This week a republican appointed judge gave a reduced sentence to the millenium bomber in WA.

The courts are a mess. They don't follow the law or use common sense. I've also never seen them so poliltical before either. The judges have a political agenda and have no fear in ruling to support it.

[vaudine]

I knew that when i read the article--just didn't know the dates. It had to be another Clinton judge busily taking a stance for our enemies.

vaudine

[Mr Ramsbotham]

In the case, 11 Muslim men, all but one from the Washington suburbs, were charged with taking part in paramilitary training, including playing paintball in the Virginia countryside, to prepare for holy war abroad.

I'm sure there was more to it than this.

[Just A Nobody]

It was that secret.

Ahhh, the good old days when love of country, honor and ethics meant something.

The CIA, FBI, Generals in the military etc didn't "leak" top secret information to the press.

Maybe that is really why they are called the greatest generation.

[MizSterious]

I can't say for sure, but I suspect that some of today's "leakers" would have been punished as traitors in those days.

[thoughtomator]

Liberalism = suicide

[jim macomber]

"I was thinking the other day about the German spies who got caught in the U.S. during World War II. They were sent to try to sabotage war production plants. At least one of them was caught, tried, and set to be executed."

More than one. Ex Parte Quirin 317 US 1.

[jackbill]

The eight "spies" were tried by military tribunal. Six of the eight died in the electric chair five days after the guilty verdict.

[Just A Nobody]

I can't say for sure

Oh, I think you could say it with 99.99999999% accuracy.

[Katya]

There was a ludicrous article in the Montgomery county gazette about the fellow named Khan, including his pic where he makes every effort to at least look the part of a terrorist jihadi.
Apparently right after 9-11 he traveled to Pakistan to sign some papers for his mother regarding property in his dead fathers name. Then while he was in Pakistan he visited a terrorist training camp....oh, but he wasn't there for the training...no,no, he was looking to buy some land on the property. Oh, and he also used to go paintballing with the other jihadi's in Virginia, which is also just a coincidence considering he lives in Montgomery Village, Maryland. It's just a set of coincidences that's all....and for that he got life plus 65 yrs, which this Clinton judge has reduced to life plus 45.

[Sandy]

This is just plain stupid. Congress has had over six months to figure out what to do about Booker/Fanfan. And what have they done besides have a couple of hearings? Nothing. Flippin idiots.

[piasa]

Yes there is more to it... the paintball cell was formed around the son of Iraqi immigrants... a guy named Ali al Timimi. As it happens he was also involved in the 2001 anthrx investigation