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To: ClearBlueSky
I think you suffer from an underdeveloped sense of cultural- and personal- self preservation.

Do you even see how offensive your statements are? Does it even occur to you that statement you made above is precisely the argument the Nazi's made for first interring the Jews, then trying to expel them, and finally exterminating them? First you lump an entire group of people under one grotesque stereotype in which you ignore completely anything that doesn't support your thesis (you still haven't explained what happens to the Kurds, the Jordanians, and the Kuwaitis who support us in this war, under your progrom), then you suggest that anyone who doesn't agree with you doesn't have a sense of their own culture or a sense of self preservation. Do you have the slighest understanding of history and that the argument that exterminating the Jews was about preserving the German culture and existence? Do you do anything but react to your own worsts instincts?

116 posted on 08/01/2005 9:33:57 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: Casloy

I have a VERY good understanding of the German/Jewish situation. My father fought in WW2. He walked into the concentration camps the Germans had built, he SAW the 'good German' citizens who lived near those camps, and who SMELLED the cooking flesh of people who went in but never came out of places like Nordhausen and Birkenau.
The correct comparison is not Muslims to Jews, but Muslims to Nazis. We- Western culture- are the Jews. The Nazis and Muslims have the same 'take over the world' agenda at their core. The KORAN says that. The Muslims conducting terror say that. Signs hung in Britain saying that Islam will rule are pretty clear. World domination is the goal of Islam.
Nazis LIED when they said Jews wanted to take over the world. They conducted a pogrom against them based on LIES. There were no Jewish rabbis preaching taking over the German government in Germany. Do you not see the difference between LIES about Judaism and TRUTH about Islam?
The Jews of WW2 did NOTHING to deserve annihilation. The Muslims of today( and throughout history) are doing PLENTY!
If it were the Amish I would feel the same- but it isn't!
You asked about the Kurds, Jordanians and Kuwatis et. al who 'support' us against terrorism.
My problem with Islam is the 'kill all infidels' part, the 'dominate the world' part, and the brutalization of women. ANY 'Muslim' who would be willing to DISAVOW all of that-who would be willing to rip those pages from the Koran in public and act accordingly I would consider unthreatening.
Show me a Kurd, Kuwati or Jordanian Muslim who will kiss a Jew, help a Jew, defend a Jews right to exist and be Jewish- and I will exempt them from what I think of all Muslims. Show me a Kurd, Kuwaiti or Jordanian Muslim who does not think of women as property, who does not put his 'honor' above HER LIFE- and I will consider them decent humans.


Please understand. I don't care if people want to worship their old naval lint, or a giant squid god, or do any number of weird things in the name of religion- as long as it doesn't involve human torture and sacrifice and the CALL FOR MY DEATH because I won't go along. That's a 'biggie', but you don't seem to think so.
I don't 'lump an entire group under one grotesque stereotype' THEY DO IT THEMSELVES! It's THEIR group identification- not mine! All Muslims consider EVERY word of the Koran- including those that direct them to kill infidels and impose Sharia on the world- as HOLY! Revered! They will NOT delete those words- but they don't believe them?
Please! If you don't believe something you don't consider it holy.
It's the KORAN they all have in common. The KORAN that has the blueprint- and marching orders- for all Muslims to erase every other religion. Which- the world over- they have done wherever they rule.
Islam tolerates NO other belief system. Why should we tolerate Islam when doing that will negate all other religions?
It's very simple for 'good Muslims' to prove people like me wrong. All they have to do is show the world the 'good' face of Islam. They are letting the 'bad Muslims' put an evil face on Islam- where is the 'good face'? Where are the Muslim interdenominational rallies? The Muslim ladies groups bringing food to sick and homebound Jews? Where is the effort by 'good' Muslims to win hearts on a local, then nationwide, level?
They keep themselves seperate. They know only one way to 'interact' and that is to make society change to accept them- they NEVER change to fit into society- because the RULES OF THE KORAN, the laws of the 7th century, will not let them. It's a one way street with Muslims- and I'm sick to death of it.
You do NOT have a sense of self preservation, if you are anything other than Muslim, if you think you can live with Islam and not be dominated by it. You won't face the nature of the beast. Fine- go right ahead . Eventually Islam will make you face what it is.
But you're not going to get away with comparing the Muslims to the Jews- not with the daughter of a man who fought those Nazis face to face.
Judaism was innocent. Islam is GUILTY.
WE are the Jews!


117 posted on 08/01/2005 10:25:41 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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