[loveliberty2]

In addition to the other quotations from the Founders, we might look at this one, although Jefferson was discussing the subject of a popular perception of that day--slavery--the underlying principle is the same.

"And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath?" — Thomas Jefferson

By whatever mechanism or semantic confusion employed, the "removal" of the "firm basis" of liberty as a "conviction in the minds of the people" is dangerous to the liberty and rights of all.

[AFPhys]

I would love to ban IVF altogether, and remove this situation.

What can we do short of that? It seems we have to do the best we can to protect as much as possible.