Posted on 07/29/2005 12:15:49 PM PDT by AFPhys
He actually said,
"Now, to date, adult stem cell research is the only type of stem cell research that has resulted in proven treatments for human patients."
Media Bias? FRAUDcasting? Honest error? Incompetent reporter?
You decide... All I know is that when I find things like that in a "news story", it reinforces why I need to go to the source instead.
If there are 5 embryos left over from the Smith family's IVF cycle, and they don't want them any more, they could be implanted in Mrs. Jones's uterus tomorrow and one or two could be going to your favorite institute of higher education in nineteen years.
I do not see how my argument is even slightly off the point. Maybe I am just dumb.
HONEST DIALOGUE,
Honest Politicians...don't hold yer breath.
Yaell's Q: Basically, if parents don't want a baby, we can use it for parts?Fist's A: Why not?
Bookmarked.
Huh? It's legal now. This is ONLY about government funding. There is no ban on doing ESC research, only using government funds for it.
He's been called that many times before for a variety of reasons.
Huh.
So that's what they call 'em?
I agree. Frist is certainly not "presidential" material. As a doctor, he should know that creating human life just to destroy it is IMMORAL. There are so many cures being found using adult stem cells that embryonic stem cells are not the panacea the researchers want us to believe. They just want our tax money and a comfortable life style for themselves as they go about snuffing out human life.
Your name is perfect, you are "hilarious" in your thinking.
He has said a number of things in support of ESC research, but yeah, the media constantly reports the administration as saying things they never said. Usually they are better about it with Congress, though they often misrepresent it, or misdescribe it without quoting it.
Well, now that I've read his speech and mulled it over a bit, at least one thing is clear:
He has not "flip-flopped".
His 2001 statements are entirely consistent with today.
He makes good points that researchers know quite a bit more about this issue than they did four years ago, and that ongoing review is important and adjustments may be important.
I'm still not sure what I, being VERY PRO LIFE, think about this. I have a feeling that a bill that Frist supports would be much more "ethical" than the House-passed bill, and such a bill would be more protective of life than any other likely alternative. I've got loads of issues about whether the Fed ought to be involved at all in this unless we decided to ban it, and his 'NIH has a better chance of regulating this if we're involved in funding it' argument is probably truth.
I respect what each of you think here, too.
This is a very difficult issue.
there are reasonable, if disagreeable arguments to be made morally. Federal funding is unjustifiable on several levels, one of which is its moral questionability.
Huh.
So that's what they call 'em?
You want to know the truth?? When the wife's eggs are in the dish and the husband's sperm fertilizes them, not all of them do fertilize. Then, of the ones that do fertilize, not all of them continue to grow well and be ready to be implanted. And of those who do grow well and are ready to be implanted, not all of them grow 5 days, to the "blastocyst" stage. But those that do have the HIGHEST chance of being born.
That is why no reputable fertility doctor will implant more than two blasts into a woman. Because they tend to take! And these are the embryos Frist wants to use to cure diseases.
Why don't they just use all cord blood that the parents don't want to keep? Very few can afford to store their child's own cord blood. Babies are born every day. It doesn't destroy anything.
Just chiming in here....ESC research is already going on in the private sector and has been for some time, correct? How come we haven't already seen these "breakthroughs" in cures for diseases. Does the private sector lack funding? Is this the problem. Is the private sector already paying people to donate embryos?
Also, for thought, Is this something Big Pharmaceutical would be interested in? I think so. Is this why Frist is SO INTERESTED in Gov't spending on this issue? Would there be anything in it for him?
Just a few questions for thought.
Yeah.
I like that.
Call 'em "blastocysts."
Nobody knows what those are.
Just a clump of cells in a petri dish.
Brave New World.
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