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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: Sunshine55
When it gets to that point, that's when I stop posting and start my own thread. One thread Nazi was enough.

In that case :) I see Sergio has an ICQ number (is that thing still around?) Lista de manyas en ICQ Sergio Gallero, suser, 990607

861 posted on 07/30/2005 10:39:32 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Rippersnapper

ICQ Search Results

Your search - 990607 - did not match any documents.
No pages were found containing "990607".

Guess not.


862 posted on 07/30/2005 10:41:11 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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To: Sunshine55

Must be ICQ got replaced by IM. I used to use ICQ a lot. Oh well.


863 posted on 07/30/2005 10:43:50 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Sunshine55
In the grafica part of the groups investors, Mr. Francisco Suárez and Mr. Enrique Fernandez, and Mr. Promotores of the idea and investors, Mr., Samy Sheero and Mr. Sergio Gallero.

Must have made a lot of money off that haunted house in those two years, huh?

864 posted on 07/30/2005 10:46:13 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: All

From ArubaToday.com:

http://www.arubatoday.com/week/saturday/saturday30-07-2005.pdf

Couple of pics from the landfill & pond. Scroll down and there's a story about the Aruban LE visit to Philly.


865 posted on 07/30/2005 10:48:34 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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To: TexKat
For those who know the player's names in this case, the following link may be helpful.

It's the Aruba Chamber of Commerce Search Site.

I'd check contractors, hotels, concrete, marinas, excavators and the like.

http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp

Sorry if it's been posted before. I'm just kind of a lurker.

866 posted on 07/30/2005 10:51:11 AM PDT by demsux
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To: TexKat

I just thought people needed to be aware so she wouldn't be added to all the mumbo-jumbo going on.


867 posted on 07/30/2005 10:51:42 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: BradyLS
Is this an accurate recap for those unable to follow the post-by-post here? What am I missing?

Hi BradyLS. Thank you for your compliment.

You have got it.

My only question is, what is the FBI's role in all this? It sounds like they are simply going over the evidence that ALE has already oicked over in case they miss something.

Aruba sends FBI transcripts in missing teen probe

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) -- Authorities in Aruba have sent transcripts from the investigation into missing American teenager Natalee Holloway to the FBI, which is acting in an advisory role in the high-profile case.

868 posted on 07/30/2005 10:57:47 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Krodg
I just thought people needed to be aware so she wouldn't be added to all the mumbo-jumbo going on.

And for that I am thankful Krodg.

869 posted on 07/30/2005 10:59:10 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: demsux
For those who know the player's names in this case, the following link may be helpful.

Whoa, thank you demsux. Please continue to lurk and post.

870 posted on 07/30/2005 11:01:40 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Bookmark bump!


871 posted on 07/30/2005 11:05:41 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: Dolphy

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872 posted on 07/30/2005 11:07:09 AM PDT by Dolphy
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To: auboy


873 posted on 07/30/2005 11:13:07 AM PDT by auboy
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To: Krodg

Oh, good! Glad to hear that.


874 posted on 07/30/2005 11:24:54 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Ditter

If the fishermen saw and reported seeing a vehicle in the middle of the night, what makes you think a pleasure boater wouldn't have been reported? Especially if it was being loaded with something as big as a person?

The citizens of Aruba look like the mascots on our home page. See, hear, tell nothing.


Yes, it's a small island. And tightly knit. On one thing I think we can agree: if they don't want her found, she won't be.


875 posted on 07/30/2005 11:39:57 AM PDT by Froufrou (Froufrou Loves The Spurs!)
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To: Froufrou
Why would she have to be taken in a pleasure boat? She could have been taken in a work boat of any kind. The body of a girl is not a very big bundle unless you are thinking she was taken in a small skiff. It's an island, boats are going around it all the time I would imagine, fishing, fixing buoys, cruising. She could have been buried on the beach awaiting the connection with a boat. I hope they find her body on the island someplace because otherwise her family will never know for sure what happened to her. Knowing the worst, would be better that never knowing anything.
876 posted on 07/30/2005 11:50:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Rippersnapper

I think you might be right about someone posting that the 3 suspects were questioned on June 1st, but I could not find it in this thread.


877 posted on 07/30/2005 11:57:14 AM PDT by RGVTx
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To: Froufrou

"I think we can agree: if they don't want her found, she won't be."

She still may be found, but it wont be with their help.


878 posted on 07/30/2005 12:04:23 PM PDT by Canedawg (modern liberalism is a communist plot)
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To: TexKat; truthluva; Yaelle; countryconservative; All
There are numerous posts on FR with photos of a piece of green fabric found by a searcher wearing cutoff jean shorts, on approx. 7/17/05, on a rocky shore near where the duct tape was found.

In photo "material003.jpg" the searcher is holding a piece of green fabric in his right hand, and walking past what looks like a larger piece of the same fabric.

In the photo "NHblouse04.jpg", between the searcher's legs, is seen some green fabric that looks like the halter blouse top that Natalee Holloway was wearing in photos "5_23_060305_aruba_woman_350.jpg" and "image704148.jpg", on the day she disappeared.

In the photo "th_thgreenshirt22.jpg" is an enlargement of the piece of fabric held in the searcher's right hand.

In all of the photos, except "material003.jpg", there looks like a small white spot which is on the right cup side of the halter top, just where the striped fabric meets the contrasting dotted-patterned fabric. When the photos are enlarged, the white spot shows up even more.

This white spot could be a small tear in the outer fabric of the halter top (assuming that the top was lined), or a seam that opened up, allowing the white lining to show thru, or, perhaps, a built-in bra.

I am convinced, because of the small white spot, that this is Natalee's halter top that was found as a piece of green fabric by the searcher.

Does anyone know if this green fabric has been turned over to the FBI for fabric analysis and DNA testing to find out if Natalee wore this fabric?

I have not heard any mention on the MSM about this piece of green fabric, only about the duct tape what was found in the same area. I believe this piece of green fabric is the only thing that has shown up that Natalee was wearing the night she disappeared.

879 posted on 07/30/2005 12:08:48 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Rippersnapper

Found it.




From that AOL site

6-1-05

Main Suspect J. SLOOT, Current Suspect D. KALPOE, and Current Suspect S. KALPOE are again questioned by the ARUBAN police at Noord station.

The Twittys are staying in Natalee's room at the Holiday Inn, where Beth Twitty sleeps in one of her daughter's night shirts, People Magazine reported. She is often approached by strangers in the hotel's lobby, people who have seen her on television and want to offer their support. "Beth is kind and patient with them all because that's just the way she is," Standifer said. Each day, Twitty has made time to go to a church on the island, often the picturesque chapel overlooking the sea, where she prays for Natalee, Standifer said. "Her faith in God is really strong," she said. Twitty has kept an optimistic, determined public face, but has been through "the range of emotions," Standifer said. "She's risen to the occasion," she said. "She's done this for Natalee. "Whatever happens, she's prepared for it."

ANITA returns from HOLLAND sometime on 6-1.

The government’s call for island-wide searches during the first week after NATALEE went missing was performed by Aruban police, Aruban coast guard, the United States FBI, a contingent reported to be 200 in number of Dutch Marines, and thousands of volunteers (locals and tourists) produced little, if any, evidence of NATALEE‘s whereabouts. (most hopefully more physical evidence has been secured than has been publicly stated by the secretive investigative and judicial authorities, though) Aruba's government let 4,000 civil servants off work early at 2 p.m. on 6-6 to help hunt for NATALEE.

On 6-1 (and on every day) BETH is among the ARUBA population speaking with people as she and family members searched for NATALEE. Also handed out “KIDNAPPED” flyer bulletins (later changed to “MISSING” bulletins) She spends some of every morning at a tiny, open-air chapel perched on a hill above the rocky coastline, praying for her daughter's return. She spends some of her days walking through neighborhoods, handing out fliers, handmade bracelets and prayer cards, asking everyone she meets to help find her Natalee.

On 6-1 the family has a printing business print up a poster entitled “KIDNAPPED” in big, red, capitalized letters at the top.




565 posted on 07/29/2005 9:23:25 PM CDT by stlnative
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880 posted on 07/30/2005 12:13:12 PM PDT by RGVTx
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