Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11

Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

[TexKat]

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)

[truthluva]

"Whos on first?"

I dont't know...

[Fritzy]

I liked Karl... I guess (this will get me in a whole lot of trouble).. I am really disgusted with Nancy Grace's wild eyed looks and her over the top exclamations.. When Nancy got her show, I expected some real thinking behind her questioning.. some deep thoughts about issues.. but I almost cannot listen to her.. Greta has set the bar on investigative reporting.. but then Fox moved her too quick.. I long for strong, inquiring and listening reporters... most of the time the reporters are not listening to their guest.. they seem to be trying to concentrate on their next question and trying to visually look like movie stars.. my core interest is "Where is Natalee" and exactly what is going on.. it would be nice if one of the reporters would establish a credible time line with all the info delineated - almost like a flow chart... but then,I think some of our Freepers have already created a few time lines......

[Pepper777]

You could be right Dolphy. I thought I remembered a story saying he had brought his equipment to Aruba, but I'm not sure.

The Twitty's must have confidence in him and I even think I remember Jug saying at one time, that it was a friend of his who had the voice equipment company. Therefore, the Twittys and the PI might actually be friends. I got upset when I heard that the PI's witness had changed her story and wondered if someone had scared her into doing so. Thinking I'm getting too parinoid over the Aruban way of doing things. lol

[RGVTx]

That was my conclusion, too, TexKat. The red jeep observer at the landfill being the same as the observer by the landfill fence. He made these statements on 2 different shows and since we know how he likes to string out his info, this adds up.

[Rippersnapper]

You are welcome to whatever opinion you want . But I know for a fact...many teenage girls are attracted to 25 year old men over 17 year old boys.

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I didn't say young girls would not be atrracted to 25 year olds. I did however say they probably would NOT be interested in 30+. In fact I mentioned the young beach guys. Most of them would be...... 20's!

To: truthluva

Young women in their mid to late teens just may view men in their 30's as old farts, I mentioned using men around the age of Trapenburg to lure some of the young women that might be attracated to 'older' men, but he doesn't seem to be real old and doubt the gals would be enticed with men much older than him. Most young women are going to be going for the young beach guys. jmo

[stlnative]

Thank you

[truthluva]

Okay, Rip...whatever.

[varina davis]

I liked Karl, too. Candiotti doesn't seem to be really with it, sort of disoriented or something. She seems to have trouble putting her words together. Maybe it's the heat and wind. Or maybe she just isn't that interested in being in Aruba.

[RGVTx]

I haven't watched much of Nancy Grace until recently and I agree her antics are strange, but she isn't why I watch. I watch to see what her guests say. So I just ignore or laugh at her strange ways and listen for infromation.

[Rippersnapper]

Unbelieveable, isn't it. Now we don't if the witness if scared or she in fact, she doesn't remember. EEEKKKK!!!

Why on earth would they have even revealed the information about the witness until they had a written statement from her. So much for witnesses feeling free to talk now. If they do, they will have CNN on their doorstep and the whole town will know who they are.

I wonder if the PI is spending too much time on talk shows and not enough time getting signed statements from witnesses.




461 posted on 07/29/2005 6:03:00 PM PDT by Pepper777

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No, I got the right person! lol The witness said the date was wrong. She remember it was after her neighbors left for vacation or something and that was in June.

[RGVTx]

Thanks for clearing that up. We'll soon see if that story changes, I imagine.

And thanks for the laugh!

[varina davis]

Though the landfill witnesses has an interesting story, it rather strains the imagination that three men -- and one man watching -- would be dumping a body before closing time in full public view. Not impossible, but hard to believe.

[truthluva]

This is from the Shango 'story':

"The DiceMen must be questioned.

They to go to the Music and enter the same Maze"

Earlier tonight I mentioned the Allegro. Allegro is a musical term for "at a brisk lively tempo -- used as a direction in music". If the Allegro was underconstruction, but (as bolta_lightnin suggested) it would not be open to tourists. Might make a great place for an after hours party.

[TexKat]

when was Joran arrested - I can't remember

6/9 --- 3 Arrested in Missing Teen Case in Aruba

Transcript: Van der Sloots Speak

ANITA VAN DER SLOOT: Joran is a very outgoing person. He's a sweetheart. To me, he's very warm. We spend Easter vacation in Florida together to visit his school, and we had a lot of fun together, went to Busch Gardens (search), and he was getting me cups of coffee and making jokes. He's very outgoing, loving, caring, fights with his brothers all the time, but I think that's pretty normal. We cannot get him out of bed in the morning to go to school, but once he's there, he's doing great. He got picked up on the morning of his graduation. He graduated with honor, all As and Bs. He did some AP, advanced courses, physics, calculus, AP English.

[Pepper777]

Nancy is either loved or hated. LOL I got use to listening to her while watching her show on Court TV for several years. I guess I've gotten over the shock of her dramatic way of hosting.

I can understand what you're saying because she does go over the top sometimes. I do think her heart is in the right place though. She's definately an advocate of victims. God help a fasely accused person whose in the target of Nancy Grace. They wouldn't stand a chance.

She was a prosecutor who supposedly has never lost a case. Her boyfriend was murdered a few months before their wedding date. She made the decision to become an attorney due to his murder. I'll admit that sometimes her actions are for the camera but other times she is truly touched by the victims pain and does want to help. She's definately is a character whose has driven me nuts one day and has me cheering her on, the next.

[truthluva]

"He got picked up on the morning of his graduation."

You must have posted this once before. That's probably where I remember seeing it. TK does it again! You rock.

[RGVTx]

This is an excerpt from RWV about the woman the PI talked with.

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It's also alleged that she now claims not to have told investigator Ward she saw the Kalpoe car. Still later that same night, she said it had to be after midnight but she wasn’t sure, she saw yet another car slowly passing by; she noticed that the tail lights were clear as as it passed.

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Notice she says she saw a car with clear tail lights...like Deepak's car. I guess her story did not completely change...yet.

[Rusty Roberts]

"Whos on first?" I dont't know...

I'm itching...with the way this investigation is going, it's a better definition than keystone cops.

[Palladin]

AAARGHH!

To quote the eminent Doctor Henry Lee:

"Rice not cooked yet. Table has only two legs. Needs 4 legs: physical evidence, crime scene, body, witness. Cooks too busy playing Mah Jong."

[Pepper777]

Oh okay. lol So are you saying the witness wasn't actually correct with what she had said originally to the PI? I might have jumped the gun with what I said, which is very possible.