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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: RGVTx
I wonder if there are any stores near the HI that might have mannequins. Maybe one of them got rid of an old one.

Went looking and found this for June 18th (ish):

He did not show up at his job for two days Police is investigating the cause behind the dead of the man Rene van Heyningen whose body was found behind the Government cemetery at Sabana Basora. It was mrs. Y.C.H., 29 years old, who arrived home at Sabana Basora around 7:30 a.m. Saturday to find the house in a total mess and with signs of violence, including traces of blood. At observing the scene police said that the injured person could not be alive. The man that should have been at that house could not be found anywhere, and his grey pick-up truck was not there either. Immediately alarm was sounded. Police agents who arrived at the scene started a thorough search of the area and moments later discover the pick-up truck behind the Government cemetery in Sabana Basor. The beheaded body of Rene van Heyningen, who worked at the refinery, was found in the bushes not far from the vehicle. Rene van Heyningen was born on Janaury 12, 1973 and resided at van Lennepstraat 17 in San Nicolas. So far, no detention has taken place in this case. According to the police, the house owner was heard as a possible witness. We extend our deepest condolences to the bereaved family.

521 posted on 07/29/2005 6:47:51 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: Dolphy
Did anyone hear Tim Miller basically say (about the landfill witness) that they shouldn't discount anyone because of their IQ or emotional/mental state?

No, I missed that one Dolphy.

522 posted on 07/29/2005 6:48:25 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: stlnative

LOL! I should have known anything from CBS would haven errors!

Sorry about that!


523 posted on 07/29/2005 6:48:47 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: stlnative

This timeline

http://members.aol.com/worldJOURNIER/NATALEE/NATALEEtimeline.html

shows the 3 were first questioned on 5-31:

2:00 PM (?) = police question Main Suspect J. SLOOT, Current Suspect D. KALPOE, and Current Suspect S. KALPOE. After telling the ARUBAN police investigators the conspiratorially group fabricated “Holiday Inn” alibi-lie, the 3 suspects are allowed by the police to go free for the next 10+ days, supposedly, so the ARUBAN investigators can “surveil” the suspects.


524 posted on 07/29/2005 6:49:21 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: theophilusscribe; All

I just checked in to see if there's any news. I'm watching Fox, but FR seems to have more information. My uncle spent the week in Meridian, where the talk is of nothing else. Everyone had seemed to think there would be a breakthrough this week, and there is a lot of disappointment.


525 posted on 07/29/2005 6:51:00 PM PDT by pollyg107
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To: Jrabbit

Okay, thanks. Will switch over.


526 posted on 07/29/2005 6:51:49 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: theophilusscribe

They were all too afraid to come forward before now? That's it?


527 posted on 07/29/2005 6:55:15 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: texasbluebell

I heard the same thing about it being possible to detect a decaying body for up to 3 or 4 months after death.


528 posted on 07/29/2005 6:56:10 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: texasbluebell

No need.....big news was a helicopter is shining a searchlight on the pond......info babe in Aruba was like "so"? She said rather smugly that the authorities would notify her IMMEDIATEY if anything is found.....whatever.


529 posted on 07/29/2005 6:56:13 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Jrabbit

The woman on Fox just now? The guy on with her, got cut off, but he sure peed her off. He said it was a shame the aruban police haven't really done much of anything, and that the family had to bring in volunteers to do the work. Cut off, here.


530 posted on 07/29/2005 7:00:40 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: texasbluebell; All

No Greta.....Jossie on


531 posted on 07/29/2005 7:00:58 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: sarasota

Yes, that seems to be the issue. Here are the posts I told you about . . .

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To: All

Tim Miller of TES just on msnbc. I had not heard this before, sorry if it's a repeat for others.

Re: the witness who was at the landfill and saw something. He was at the landfill gathering things that he could re-sell.

He was there on the Wednesday after Natalee disappeared, at 4:30 in the afternoon.

He saw the car with the 3 guys in it, he saw a red jeep off in the distance watching, it seemed.

He saw the body of a girl being dumped in the landfill, he saw her hair and her breast and her chest.

This is what Tim Miller just said.

240 posted on 07/29/2005 6:28:50 PM EDT by texasbluebell

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To: Froufrou; onyx; All

okeeee.....per Tim Miller on Abrams, an eyewitness saw the trio burying a girl on the Wednesday after NH was reported missing.....

Said eyewitness, saw the girl's head and breasts. Eyewitness has been too afraid for his life to come forward before now.

Miller & team are now digging thru the landfill.......shades of Lori Hacking case.


242 posted on 07/29/2005 6:30:03 PM EDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)


532 posted on 07/29/2005 7:00:59 PM PDT by theophilusscribe
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To: monkeywrench

ooops....missed that little exchange!


533 posted on 07/29/2005 7:01:51 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Rippersnapper

What I understood Jossy to say was three sightings of the white truck. One was at the HI, but no body was mentioned. Just that it was seen at the HI during the time Natalee was staying at the HI. That is the extent of that time frame.

Another sighting was on the beach, 3 males loading what appeared to be a body into the bed of the white truck. No time for this was given, at all. Not even a date.

Another was at the landfill, 3 males unloading a female body from the bed of the white truck on Wednesday about 4:30pm, the week Natalee went missing.

Jossy is on Greta now...without Greta, someone else subbing tonight.


534 posted on 07/29/2005 7:02:35 PM PDT by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

Body covered up in landfill by a kiddie pool?


535 posted on 07/29/2005 7:04:00 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: TexKat

SM:

Jossy on Greta but no Greta - telling the landfill story - witness saw a guy with a black garbage bag and also put a children's pool over where they put the bag. Jossy says they found the pool today and so tomorrow they will dig deep there.


536 posted on 07/29/2005 7:04:16 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: maggief

Greta sub asking about white van....sheesh


537 posted on 07/29/2005 7:05:11 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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I have to wonder if someone is in custody as we speak, if the witness was accurate in his report of the license plate number. Wonder what kind of vehicle Mama Kalpoe drives?


538 posted on 07/29/2005 7:05:12 PM PDT by Sunshine55 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for everything.)
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To: RGVTx

2 of the men got out of pickup, placed a black garbage bag in the dump, witness saw some blond hair, then the men put a child's swimming pool over the black bag.

They have found the swimming pool today, Jossy says.


539 posted on 07/29/2005 7:05:23 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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SM:

Jossy: Witness at landfill saw 3 men in a truck pull up, two got out and picked up a garbage bag, and he thinks he saw blonde hair fall out of it. He says they put a baby pool on top of it. Searchers found a pool there today.


540 posted on 07/29/2005 7:05:28 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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