Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat
Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)
Thanks. It doesn't really clear the issue for me. I still see a distinction between "based" and "registered" where others see them as the same.
This is a side issue in the overall subject at hand, so I don't see it making any real difference. It just got my curiosity up.
My curiosity is up, too. I'll keep looking. Please ping me if you find a reason, and I will do the same.
" The closest I've seen to this was an older rumor that she was being held (alive) in a crawlspace under a Hotel or casino. "
Someone sent an email to George Noory, the host of the radio program Coast to Coast, with the crawl space information. Noory read it and said he wondered what he should do with the information. This was at least 2 weeks ago. Did you hear the rumor on the radio program or some where else?
Judge: Joran Van der Sloot Can Be Questioned By FBI
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/07/judge_joran_van.html
Was just informed that court results are now out in Aruba. All of the DNA evidence is said to have been thrown out - however, the tests can be conducted again through the proper procedures. Defense attorneys had challenged the testing as they claimed to have not been given enough time to argue against the procedure.
In possibly the most important development, a judge has ruled that suspect Joran Van der Sloot can be interrogated by both Dutch and FBI officials.
Thanks Vn, but I failed to see what was different in the key. This Shango thing is big enough to have been taken to the FBI. I think Shango knows this. If not legitimate, I would think Shango would've shut up by know.
I went back to SM and found the item by searching poster name Shango. It was posted July 27 - two days ago.
I think the ref to PVDS playing two cards and it not working has to do with (1) JVDS and (2) his packing up his office. People will be punished, but it will be of no consquence unless we reach Eden.
This person has to be in a position to know what the Hague has said about this case. That means either polis or P.M. or someone in the courthouse/prison. Jossy is a smokescreen.
Natalee Holloway Update
by ArubaGirl
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1340
Red is having a bit of difficulty accessing his system, so I’m posting this.
As per Aruba Today, all DNA evidence was thrown out for failure of following proper procedure and attaining proper signatures. The judgle also ordered for new samples to be obtained properly.
Furthermore, the judge ruled that Joran can be interrogated by both Dutch officials and the FBI. According to sources, this interrogation will be starting tomorrow.
This entry was posted on Friday, July 29th, 2005 at 5:23 pm and is filed under Natalee Holloway.
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Update: Red has been working in the landfill…………….
by Absolut
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1339
Look for him to give us an update in the early evening with some pictures and information. Hopefully we will also get to some of the questions from the forum.
This entry was posted on Friday, July 29th, 2005 at 2:29 pm
Shango kept saying "Follow the music"
He also kept referring to the "Palace"
If you google "Aruba Palace"
You get this:
http://www.angelfire.com/mb2/Gapskank/lyrics.html
Driving my Torino to the discotheque lights
The Aruba Palace is the place tonight
Open the door and what do I see?
A lot of white girls trying to Smurf like me
The Aruba Palace Casino (Old Americana Aruba Hotel)
it is now the Allegro Hotel.
Mary never heard the bouy toll (she wasn't at the beach)
Ask the men who play dice and "roll" (she was at the Allegro)
From your post-->
"Maybe Joran and the brothers were at the Raquetball club handing Natalee of and were there awaiting to get paid. I have always thought the dicemen part of the code was relevant now I think it might be very important to find out who was at the craps tables and could have known Natalee and arranged her disappearance if she is indeed missing."
The above quote is just as possible as any other theory in this mysterious case. I've read some of the Codetalker's threads at SM. They are definately interesting.
You know, that is a distinct possibility considering he knows so much of what is going on around there.
I heard that the DNA tests at least two of the suspects were thrown out.
No, I read it on a board somewhere.
It's been awhile
Well, if the guy they are looking for in Holland is really part of all this, then that is, indeed, quite possible.
"but I failed to see what was different in the key"
there are some differences from the original at the link below which was posted this morning....I hadn't seen this one before.....it's got Bush and the CIA in it
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1452328/posts?page=950#915
Definitely adds a whole other layer to the mystery, doesn't it?
Could it be a reference to the recently departed Casino employee there? If the FBI were in charge, we'd already have heard his story.
Someone elsewhere suggested the security guards be reinvestigated. Something about their 'turf' and a Shango ref that escaped me. Argh!
Do you remember hearing that at the time Natalee disappeared, there were many high-rollers in Aruba due to a poker tournment sponsored by Party Poker. These high rollers could have attended a party/Rave at the Allegra on the night of May 29th/30th. I'm sure others on this thread will remember hearing about this.
PVDS or Juran could have sold Natalee to a rich head gambler to settle their gambling debts. Geeezzz... I'm jumping all over the place today. Your posts about the Allegra make sense though.
Running through the back of mind since I started following this has been this possibility. There is enough corruption and apparently fear on the Island to make a lot of people walk the way they are told. The cast of characters seem to me to be held together by dark secrets than a single-minded plan to abduct a young American. Nuts as that seems it hasn't struck me as any more nuts than believing PVDS, a seemingly lowly bureaucrat could hold off the FBI, the PM in Aruba and Dutch authorities for weeks in an effort to protect his teenage son.
Agreed. Who knows? ALE hasn't kept crime stats since 1995.
Yes, he sure does know lots. Remember the email CC wrote, concerning if people could handle what the investigation might bring to light?
Tim Miller of TES just on msnbc. I had not heard this before, sorry if it's a repeat for others.
Re: the witness who was at the landfill and saw something. He was at the landfill gathering things that he could re-sell.
He was there on the Wednesday after Natalee disappeared, at 4:30 in the afternoon.
He saw the car with the 3 guys in it, he saw a red jeep off in the distance watching, it seemed.
He saw the body of a girl being dumped in the landfill, he saw her hair and her breast and her chest.
This is what Tim Miller just said.
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