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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 11
Various News Outlets | 7/29/05

Posted on 07/29/2005 7:28:13 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway is shown in this undated family photo. (AP Photo/family photo)


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; everyoneschild; greta; joran; kalpoes; keystonekops; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; richwhitepretty; satish; sybil; twitty; womensissue
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To: varina davis
hi Varina.....but I don't buy the "accident" part as the simple answer.....

remember, the "boys" have had ample opportunity to dispel all rumors, to exonerate themselves, to make the island nice and peaceful again by just saying....."we were all drunk and went for a swim" and so and so happened.....we panicked".......

instead, they drag the whole island including their "beloved" parents thru this nightmare?......don't think so....

whatever happened may have been an accident, but it was an accident that involved some crime on their part.....rape...filming a rape scene ...rave party....etc....

they are protecting their own mushy little butts....

remember too....they pointed at two innocent guards and got them in trouble too.....

1,901 posted on 08/01/2005 9:50:04 PM PDT by cherry
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To: TexKat

Here is a new Natalee picture if you want to use it on the next thread. Sorry it is so grainy...but it is still a good picture of her.

Here is the URL's... (you pick the size you want to use if you want to use it - you can link to them directly if you like)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/nataleeholloway1.jpg (smaller picture)

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/nataleeholloway.jpg (large picture)


1,902 posted on 08/01/2005 10:02:23 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: maggief

Beth said it as a question...

Where is the casino manager, is he there or did he leave the country?


1,903 posted on 08/01/2005 10:20:46 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: TexKat

I know this question was almost 12 hours ago, but I'd like to see the Shango posts here...I find it interesting, even if i am behind.


1,904 posted on 08/01/2005 10:23:34 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: theophilusscribe

You are good! Court reporter?


1,905 posted on 08/01/2005 10:36:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: justche

Scared monkeys it don't work. Need to register.

I got some posts from Raging Bull here:

http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01002&read=6937


1,906 posted on 08/01/2005 10:46:25 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences)
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To: maggief
... Now let's look at the rumors: Van Der Straaten is on the take with the drug dealers (Michael Posner, owner of the Excelsior casino I think comes up; he is rumored to have employed Joran as a dealer for his clients). Well, it's common knowledge that due to very lax financial laws Aruba is great for casinos and thus money laundering...you get one of your guys to lose a bunch of dirty money at the casinos, casino counts that as legitimate winnings...clean money! It is also known that Aruba is owned mostly by three families that have known drug or organized crime ties: Posners, Mansurs (that's right- Jossie's family), and Cuntreras...

Well this is interesting, especially factoring in Beth's comments tonight regarding Joran's relationships with the island's casino and Jossy's maneuvering. Is Jossy using Natalee's case to take out an enemy? Is this Michael Posner the same one found here under the North Side Associates? (My apologies if this was previously covered in earlier threads.)

1,907 posted on 08/01/2005 10:56:30 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: the Deejay
Talk about coverups? Remember Vince Foster's "suicide"? Remember Ron's Brown's plane crash/coverup?

Also, remember that Ron Brown had just been subpeoned to testify just before his last plane ride?

Remember the dead, nude woman found at the Dept of Commerce, reported on once only, not heard of again?

Remember the many planes that came and went at night at the Mena airport?

Remember Jim McDougal complaining "was he going to have to roll over again for this guy" and then dying of heart attack in prison?

1,908 posted on 08/01/2005 11:22:44 PM PDT by shebacal (Go, Minutemen, Go)
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To: Dolphy

It pry IS him, since he is supposedly part of the Chicago mob and is a convicted felon. According to that chart, he's on probation, so it fits.


1,909 posted on 08/01/2005 11:25:38 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: stlnative
Was on RWV about an hour reading the latest harangue about Tim Miller when the strangest thing happened. In the comments sections, out of the blue, there was a post that was supposedly from Deepak. When I clicked on his name, it came up as deepak.kalpoe@gmail.com, and he talked about everyone should be looking into Michael Mansour instead of him and "Larry" and "Moe."

Of course, nobody responded to this. It was like the elephant in the living room, since they were all so busy attacking each other as usual.

It was just really weird...do ya think it could have been him? How could we check?

1,910 posted on 08/01/2005 11:32:47 PM PDT by IrishRainy
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To: IrishRainy

Which one is Michael?


1,911 posted on 08/02/2005 12:09:06 AM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: theophilusscribe

You know I think DR has a burr in his shoe because he did not get the attention he wanted from Tim.

Tim went to SM instead.

RWV is turning into TWV or ZWV.


1,912 posted on 08/02/2005 12:53:36 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: IrishRainy

no I don't think it is him


1,913 posted on 08/02/2005 12:56:05 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative; TexKat; Dolphy; varina davis; theophilusscribe

RWV post:

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/08/natalee_hollowa.html#comments

Monday was the day Paulus brought Joran late to school. That night the Twittys arrive on Aruba.

Tuesday evening was when Paulus called the Alibi Meeting out by the pool that Mickey Johns referred to. (Evening of the same day the Twittys met the vdSloots during the night)

Wednesday the alibi was told to the headmaster earlier that day for the Twittys to hear later the same day. Wednesday, the poster incident day, was the same day Paulus showed up or was at the school and got caught in the lie about having brought Joran late to school on Monday.
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That means by Wednesday, Joran had already been given an out about the HI tape... "it was broken and that that is why he wasn't seen." For the Headmaster to know this by Wednesday is incredible information. I cannot believe that Joran/Paul already had the info that Beth/Jug had reviewed the HI tapes (how did he know this.. VanDerStraaten!!!)So does this not absolutely prove complicity between VanDerStraaten/VanDerSloot. They were the ones to come up with the broken tape angle to tell the public and thus gives the Aruban LE's the ability to arrest the security guards on Jorans/Deepaks statement and this, of course, give VDS time to get rid of all evidence. Thank God I believe in a hereafter... cause these people are gonna burn in hell.


1,914 posted on 08/02/2005 1:43:21 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: shebacal

Shebacal, I remember very well, and the spineless federal law enforcement officials who turned their backs on those crimes of severe magnitude.

In reality, the same is happening in Aruba. Embraced by the Aruban LE/Judicial system. Obstructionism, protecterism, collusion, subterfuge, and promulgated evidence/witnesses are paramont in this debacle.

I wonder if the Arubans have been conferring with the Klintoon's on how to commit murder and get away free. Hell, they have probably been doing this for a number of years and are just now under in international lime-light.

I just thought I would throw my possum in the game and say a few words as to your post. NSNR


1,915 posted on 08/02/2005 4:45:38 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: maggief

It could not have been said any better maggief. NSNR


1,916 posted on 08/02/2005 4:47:19 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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To: looney tune

bookmark for later


1,917 posted on 08/02/2005 4:50:26 AM PDT by looney tune
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To: maggief

"That means by Wednesday...."

Yes. Very good thoughtful assessment!


1,918 posted on 08/02/2005 4:51:39 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: No Surrender No Retreat; Vn_survivor_67-68

I need to clarify that the ENTIRE post was from RWV posters. Sorry for any confusion.


1,919 posted on 08/02/2005 4:55:41 AM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: maggief

Roger that. It ain't nothin but a thing. NSNR


1,920 posted on 08/02/2005 5:00:52 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat
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