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These guy aren't afraid of market economies, they are afraid of losing their personal power to control their women.

It is just too much FUN to have slaves in your house.

And as Sir Winston Churchill said, SLAVERY in the world will never end until this Islamic practice is abolished.

Sir Winston, taken from "The River War", VOL II, first edition,pgs. 248-250.

The man, Sir Winston's comments on Islam, check out the underlined sentence !:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Sir Winston the great does not mince words when it comes to the Muslim faith, he saw the work of extremist Muslims up close in Africa.

29 posted on 07/29/2005 7:43:47 AM PDT by Republic (Our Father in Heaven touched the Pope, who KNEW of Terri, Terri got her mass, VATICAN STYLE!)
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Republic,

I used your Churchill quote in my e-mail to Mr. Kikhia. I used it in the context that Islam has never had a reformation of their religion. It was an excellent example of how Islam has yet to change some of it's practices-

Mr. Kikhia,


I read your column today and I keep coming back to a thought about Islam as a religion. There has been no "reformation" of your faith to adapt to modern society. Islam is still rooted in the 7th century. Islam came to prominence by the sword and tolerates nothing but the total subjugation to Allah. Passages in the Koran state that it is acceptable to kill the infidel where you find him and the practice of taquiya, or being told by your faith that it is perfectly acceptable to lie to the infidel. If this is the case then why should we believe anything the Muslims have to say? You blame the US for all of the suffering that Muslims have felt but, as is par for the course, never look at your own religion in the mirror to see it's faults. As long as people of your faith read these passages in the Koran and interpret them as if they were written in stone your people and culture will be forever stuck in the stone age, passed up by the march of time and the advance of modern society.
I read a quote by Winston Churchill from his book The River War that said, " “How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities - but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
Until Muslims renounce the spread of the religion by the sword and learn to accept other faiths you will be as T.E. Lawrence said you will be a "little people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel". I don't believe that all Arabs and Muslims should have to apologize for every deed done by every Muslim and Arab but what they should apologize for is not having the strength or courage to challenge the passages in the Koran and societal practices that are obviously and blatantly out of date, open to radical interpretation, and plain and simple...wrong!

Thanks for your time and have a nice day!


33 posted on 07/29/2005 8:57:06 AM PDT by Xanadu2112
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