[Glenn]

I learned that I have a Joe Namath problem, and that I would always be a drunk until I addressed that problem.

Because Namath didn't call it a disease, it is not a disease?

The pathology and progression of alcoholism is well defined. I happen to believe there is a "gay gene" as well.

Keep an open mind, eh? It will amaze you what you might conclude.

[Alberta's Child]

You can't have it both ways, chief. Let's go back to Post #26 and review what you stated there:

Ever been in a detox ward? Ever been in a rehab facility?

You can't use a detox ward and a rehab facility as supporting evidence that alcoholism is a "disease," then turn around and immediately shrug off what Namath himself learned in his rehabilitation program (in what was likely one of the most respected and effective alcohol rehabilitation facilities in the United States, too).

The pathology and progression of alcoholism is well defined. I happen to believe there is a "gay gene" as well.

There may be something that is defined as a "gay gene" or an "alcoholism gene" by medical science, but these will never be definitively linked to homosexuality and alcoholism -- mainly because medical science will have no way of explaining why so many people with these genes don't exhibit any of the symptoms of these conditions.

[azhenfud]

Along your line of reasoning, one may then conclude there is a "gene" or "disease" as a root cause for propensities to engage in any behavior whatsoever - murder included.

More would agree irresponsible choice is the prime mitigating factor.

"It will amaze you what you might conclude."

Indeed, it is amazing what some have already. Blaming any and every thing EXCEPT personal choice and concluding the "victim" has no culpability will never help.