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Kinsley Expected to Lose Top Edit Page Post, But Remain at 'L.A. Times'
editor and publisher ^ | July 28 05 | editor and publisher

Posted on 07/28/2005 12:28:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff

The Los Angeles Times' Michael Kinsley is currently in negotiations to change jobs, a move that will likely end his brief but eventful tenure as the paper's editorial and opinion-page editor. Although details of his new position have yet to be finalized, Kinsley is expected to remain at the paper as a columnist and may handle some Web site duties, according to a source at the Times and a report in Tuesday's New York Times.

John Carroll, the outgoing editor of the paper who had originally hired Kinsley away from Slate, told E&P Monday he did not know about Kinsley's plans, but noted "there may be some changes in the works." A story in the Los Angeles Times last week announcing Carroll's departure indicated that editorial page oversight would shift to the publisher from the editor.

Times editorial page editor Andres Martinez, who currently works under Kinsley, declined to comment on Kinsley's future Monday. Publisher Jeffrey Johnson, who is on vacation, could not be reached for comment.

When asked late Monday if Kinsley was leaving his post, Times spokeswoman Martha Goldstein said only that "his role is evolving. We don't have anything further to add to that description."

Rumors of Kinsley's changing future began last week when Editor John Carroll announced his own pending retirement, which will take place Aug. 15. Carroll will be replaced by managing editor Dean Baquet.

Along with announcing Carroll's departure, the paper also revealed a change in the oversight of the editorial page, which had been under the editor's control but will now be reporting to the publisher. Baquet could not be reached for comment on the change, but Carroll said he believed the realignment would be good.

Carroll said he had edited papers in which both editors and publishers had controlled the editorial page and found no problem with either approach. "I don't have any doctrine on that," he told E&P. "But I think Dean feels that the editor shouldn't oversee it and I think Jeff feels that way, too."

The paper surprised many in April 2004 when it chose Kinsley to take the newly created post of editorial and opinion editor, a job he began in June of last year. He replaced Janet Clayton, who had been editorial page editor since 1995 and took another editing post at the paper.

Almost from the beginning, Kinsley had drawn the ire of some at the paper for choosing to run the editorial page from his home in the state of Washington, traveling to Los Angeles only during part of each month.

"It's a very complicated arrangement I have, and not all aspects are working as well as others," Kinsley, 54, told The New York Times in Tuesday's paper. "This living in Seattle and editing the editorial page is not an ideal arrangement...It's not ideal for me and it's not ideal for the paper. I don't think it's terrible. I think I'm doing a pretty good job. But that's the one thing that is not working out, so we're going to try to fix it."

Kinsley's tenure as head of the editorial page has had its notable moments. He made some news last fall when he told E&P he was considering changing the paper's long-running policy of not endorsing candidates in presidential races, a consideration that did not lead to a shift in policy. He also pushed for more signed editorials and editorials from those outside the paper's staff ranks.

In June, Kinsley sparked gossip and some anger among staffers when he left a copy of a power point presentation on a photocopy machine detailing editorial page shake-ups that had yet to be announced. Those included some staff changes and reassignments, plans for publication of opposing editorials, and more reader involvement.

Most recently, the paper's short-lived "wikitorial" experiment blew up in editors' faces. The meltdown occurred after the wikitorial page on the Times Web site was infiltrated by online vandals who placed profane headlines and some pornography on the site, which led to its indefinite cancellation after just two days.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: kinsley; latimes; michaelkinsley

1 posted on 07/28/2005 12:28:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff

Michael Kinsley has been driving them into the ground. Please keep him.


2 posted on 07/28/2005 12:30:39 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's code and found a terrorist message.)
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To: bmwcyle

Kinsley is to the newspaper business what Howard Dean to is to Democrat Party.


3 posted on 07/28/2005 12:36:24 PM PDT by traderrob6
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To: churchillbuff

Here's a job for which he may be qualified.

4 posted on 07/28/2005 12:37:05 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: churchillbuff

I hear they offered Kinsley a paper route. LMAO


5 posted on 07/28/2005 12:37:58 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: churchillbuff

Has Kinsely had any success in bringing his ISS condition under control?


6 posted on 07/28/2005 12:39:32 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: churchillbuff

If I may be so bold as to say.......WHO CARES


7 posted on 07/28/2005 12:39:44 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: OldFriend

I'd like to make Kinsley and Stephanopolous mine coal with their hands.


8 posted on 07/28/2005 12:45:19 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: churchillbuff
He made some news last fall when he told E&P he was considering changing the paper's long-running policy of not endorsing candidates in presidential races, a consideration that did not lead to a shift in policy

Whoever decides on a Presidential candidate based upon a newspaper's endorsement is an idiot. This is just another way a newspaper puffs up its sense of self-importance anyway.
10 posted on 07/28/2005 12:50:36 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Islam is war)
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To: traderrob6

He also looks like "Chester the Molester"..


11 posted on 07/28/2005 12:54:05 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: churchillbuff
Dialogue between the Captain of the Titanic, Edward J. Smith and Harland and Wolff's Thomas J. Andrews, architect of the Titanic:

"What do you think, Mr. Andrews?"

"She's going to sink, Captain."
12 posted on 07/28/2005 1:02:32 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: churchillbuff
Kinsley never grew up from being the precocious geek, sniggering at the back of junior high school classes. Buy him for what he's worth, sell him for what he thinks he's worth, and you're set for life.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

13 posted on 07/28/2005 1:02:58 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: churchillbuff

Kinsley will move to the boiler room, where he will be in charge of refilling the ink pots and loading the news print in the rollers. His job description explicitly excludes typesetting.


14 posted on 07/28/2005 1:15:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: churchillbuff

>He made some news last fall when he told E&P he was considering changing the paper's long-running policy of not endorsing candidates in presidential races, a consideration that did not lead to a shift in policy.<

I could swear I saw an editorial before the election that advised voting for Kerry, to end the "failed presidency" of Bush. But other than that, I alway appreciate the Times recommendations for voting: if I am unsure of which way to vote, the Times clears it up for me. ;-)


15 posted on 07/28/2005 1:24:45 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: churchillbuff

Rearranging the deck chairs...


16 posted on 07/28/2005 1:25:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: churchillbuff

Why not Barbra Streisand as a replacement? She lives right around the corner. A sub-editor or two could mask her terrible writings skills and she isn't as far left as Kinsley.


17 posted on 07/28/2005 1:56:03 PM PDT by Tacis ("Democrats - The Party of Traitors, Treachery and Treason!")
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To: churchillbuff

Brilliant. Promote him.


18 posted on 07/28/2005 4:48:27 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

The liberal "work ethic":

Those who can't do.......GET PROMOTED.


19 posted on 07/28/2005 4:50:32 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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