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To: Paul Ross

Yes. I sometimes wonder who the eff is running things. There are many people who don't think China is a threat, despite their numerous and recent threats to nuke our cities. Hell, I had one moron here on FR tell me that China was "not really communist".


6 posted on 07/28/2005 12:30:03 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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To: KC_Conspirator
China isn't the only thing we have to worry about...

April 30, 2001 - Russian military forces intervened in a mock nuclear conflict between China and the United States over Taiwan during strategic exercises that included Russian preparations to use nuclear weapons on U.S. forces in Asia, The Washington Times has learned.

Russian forces help China in mock conflict

Feb 2002 - China's military is covertly buying U.S. commercial satellite photographs of Taiwan that U.S. intelligence officials say will be used to target the island with the mainland's growing arsenal of cruise and ballistic missiles. Satellite photographs of most of the island are being purchased by China through a South Korean company, U.S. intelligence officials say.

Global Security

Nov 2003 - In a tough statement, the Vice-Minister at Beijing's Taiwan Affairs Office Wang Zaixi said Taiwan President Chen Shui-bian's recent pro-separatist activities had crossed Beijing's "red line" and that they "run the risk of triggering a war" with the mainland. "War will break out if the island declares formal independence," state media on Wednesday quoted Wang as saying.

CNN

July 26, 2004 - About 18,000 Chinese troops using their country's most advanced weapons systems last week rehearsed coordinated air, sea and ground attacks on Dongshan, an island in the South China Sea that resembles Taiwan in terrain and weather.

Washington Post

Feb 7, 2005 - Quietly, with almost no notice taken in the U.S. media, Russia and China have just stepped up their military cooperation to a level not seen in half a century since the end of the Korean War.

Washington Times

Mar 8, 2005 — China unveiled a law Tuesday authorizing an attack if Taiwan moves toward formal independence, increasing pressure on the self-ruled island while warning other countries not to interfere.

ABC News

June 26, 2005 - China is building its military forces faster than U.S. intelligence and military analysts expected, prompting fears that Beijing will attack Taiwan in the next two years, according to Pentagon officials. U.S. defense and intelligence officials say all the signs point in one troubling direction: Beijing then will be forced to go to war with the United States, which has vowed to defend Taiwan against a Chinese attack.

Chinese Dragon Awakens

June 28, 2005 - China's decision to open up massive bomb shelters to the public, ostensibly to provide a respite from summer heat, has U.S. intelligence analysts concerned about a possible strategic deception by Beijing, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin. The Chinese specialist agreed with others knowledgeable about nuclear arms that such a maneuver – opening up large fallout shelters to the public on a regular basis would serve two strategic purposes for Beijing: It would familiarize the Chinese people to the shelters, making it easier to evacuate the public in times of potential nuclear attack; It would confuse Western intelligence analysts who monitor movements of the Chinese public by satellite as evidence of the government's intentions; In addition to monitoring missile launches, U.S. national security officials keep an eye on large-scale public movements in countries like China. If, for instance, city residents were seen moving in large numbers into fallout shelters, it would be a sign the government might be preparing for an attack of some kind.

But if such massive movements became routine – because shelters are opened up in the heat of summer and in the cold of winter to provide shelters from the elements – then such movements would more likely be disregarded as militarily insignificant in the West.

"Think about it," said one U.S. intelligence source. "If you were planning, at some point in the future, to launch a pre-emptive first strike on some enemy, wouldn't it make sense to do what the Chinese are doing?"

China activates bomb shelters

Anyone else hear a drum beat?

32 posted on 07/28/2005 1:06:49 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: KC_Conspirator

And we are feeding their war machine by buying stuff from them.


34 posted on 07/28/2005 1:18:43 PM PDT by Mi-kha-el ((There is no Pravda in Izvestiya and no Izvestiya in Pravda.))
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To: KC_Conspirator
Hell, I had one moron here on FR tell me that China was "not really communist".

That's disgusting...

47 posted on 07/28/2005 2:38:34 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: KC_Conspirator

"There are many people who don't think China is a threat, despite their numerous and recent threats to nuke our cities. Hell, I had one moron here on FR tell me that China was "not really communist"."

They know damn well they're a threat but don't want to upset the applecart. A few years down the road they'll (whoever is running the current government scam) say "who knew?" and scramble to re-arm. The eternal show goes on.


51 posted on 07/28/2005 2:44:48 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: KC_Conspirator

I suspect that the best definition of PRChina is "Fascist." Industry, Government, and Military are all of a piece.

They still want to be #1 in power and influence worldwide, however, meaning that they want the USA out of the way.


59 posted on 07/28/2005 3:39:53 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: KC_Conspirator
There are many people who don't think China is a threat, despite their numerous and recent threats to nuke our cities.

Aren't these the same people who keep telling us Islam is a "religion of peace?"

76 posted on 07/28/2005 7:20:19 PM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: KC_Conspirator

I'm tempted to put on my tin foil hat and start believing that the Bilderburg group is really running our country. Perhaps the X-Files was right when it portrayed a secret govt behind our visual one.


88 posted on 07/29/2005 6:15:31 AM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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