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And the Administration is also trying to kill off the DD(X), the F-22...and maybe even the F-35 (which is a flying pig farm)...all while whistling in the dark about China reforming itself.
1 posted on 07/28/2005 12:24:02 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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Twenty years? I don't think so. These guys always put the number way out so as not to encourage or embolden the bad guys, but the real number is always a lot more near-term. Try 8 or 10. Maybe less.


2 posted on 07/28/2005 12:26:53 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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Taiwan needs to become a nuclear power.


3 posted on 07/28/2005 12:27:10 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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......Navy Officer Warns of Chinese Communist Subs .....being built in Colorado?

/sdarcasm

4 posted on 07/28/2005 12:27:58 PM PDT by maestro
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It's off the subject but Big Al was the best officer I ever worked for.


5 posted on 07/28/2005 12:29:54 PM PDT by WHBates
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Yes. I sometimes wonder who the eff is running things. There are many people who don't think China is a threat, despite their numerous and recent threats to nuke our cities. Hell, I had one moron here on FR tell me that China was "not really communist".


6 posted on 07/28/2005 12:30:03 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator (This space outsourced to India)
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One active ping


7 posted on 07/28/2005 12:30:16 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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And the Administration is also trying to kill off the DD(X), the F-22...and maybe even the F-35 (which is a flying pig farm)...all while whistling in the dark about China reforming itself.

. . . while we send $1 billion to tsunami nations (terrorist nations), $15 billion to Africa so they can maintain female genital mutilation, while we cancel billions of dollars in aid owed to us, and while we send billions more for every gimmee-gimmee hand in the United Nations.

American politicans are at war with America. China need not wait to attack the United States. America will be destroyed by America.

My tagline says it all.

11 posted on 07/28/2005 12:35:11 PM PDT by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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You have to wonder what in the hell the Bush White House thinks it's doing. At a time when we're being attacked every time we turn around, the Administration acts like everything is just ducky, we have Iraq under control and Red China won't really be a problem for twenty years if at all. So we don't need all of these defense assets.

I'm beginning to think some very dark thoughts about our Washington crap weasels.

12 posted on 07/28/2005 12:37:55 PM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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While they decommission the VP squadrons and send the P-3s to Davis-Monthan Air Force Base.
14 posted on 07/28/2005 12:40:38 PM PDT by grobdriver (Let the embeds check the bodies!)
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Although I'm liking the F-22, I am of the firm belief that the way to handle China (and the only way to convince them that airpower wil smack them down) is to follow the John Boyd method: Many cheap, agile jet fighters, and flood the airspace with them.
18 posted on 07/28/2005 12:43:27 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("These people ARE the 72 virgins."--CzarNicky describes DU.)
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BTTT


21 posted on 07/28/2005 12:48:22 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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I thought we used destroyers to chase down enemy subs?

And I see no mention of whether we believe they'll be carrying super-cavitating torpedoes.


24 posted on 07/28/2005 12:54:02 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Unfortunately for the Chinese Submarine Fleet, submarines at sea have been completely visible since 1982. It is only when they sink to the bottom and cover themselves with muck like manta rays that they can no longer be seen.


38 posted on 07/28/2005 2:08:03 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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The next big showdown in World History with be the USA vs. China - which will lead to the old game called "Blink"

resulting in almost nuclear confrontation
39 posted on 07/28/2005 2:08:22 PM PDT by Zeteo (BLINK!)
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Konetzni said that the US has fewer submarines in the Pacific than it has needed, even with the stationing of additional subs in Guam at the end of the 20th century.

Then I suggest that keeping bases like New London open, and stationing subs there 12,000 miles away from China isn't going to help.

49 posted on 07/28/2005 2:41:47 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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56 posted on 07/28/2005 3:06:41 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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You jes' don' unnerstan', Paul. Whassamatta you?

All those Chinese peasants will be SO happy to be rich, working in factories, and SO busy buying zillions of US products (if any are still made here) and paying off their MasterCards and mortgages on the 3BR/2BA/FR/DR/LR/AC-homes that they won't have any interest whatsoever in joining some military effort.

See? Peace through Materialism!!!


58 posted on 07/28/2005 3:37:51 PM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, Tomas Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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61 posted on 07/28/2005 3:42:12 PM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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But wouldn't it take a long time for subs to reach southeast Asia from Connecticut?


69 posted on 07/28/2005 6:31:11 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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Good Grief - what else?


72 posted on 07/28/2005 7:00:22 PM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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