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Nuke Mecca? Nope.
Frontpage Magazine ^ | 28 July 2005 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 07/28/2005 9:39:56 AM PDT by rdb3

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Fair take on the matter.


1 posted on 07/28/2005 9:39:56 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3

How you doing?


2 posted on 07/28/2005 9:40:19 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
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To: rdb3

The very fact it is in the public square being written and talked about is a sign that things are heating up.


3 posted on 07/28/2005 9:42:13 AM PDT by Porterville (Don't make me go Bushi on your a$$)
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Finally, someone gives a strategic and intellectual rational for opposing the nuking of Mecca as opposed to an emotional based opposition. I tend to agree with the author.


4 posted on 07/28/2005 9:43:58 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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Will men who love death, who glorify suicide bombing and praise God for beheadings and massacres, fear the destruction of holy sites?

I think so. Since everywhere they look is a "holy site" and UBL supposedly used the US soldiers stationed in Saudi as a "recruting tool" for his skyjackers, then it's not a big stretch to believe they value the real estate more than they do human lives in any quantity. They sure as heck revere that black rock more than all the human life in the world, combined.

It seems unlikely in the extreme — and that fact nullifies all the value this thread may have had as a deterrent. Nuke Mecca? Why bother? It wouldn’t work.

Two assertions that the author completely fails to back up with so much as an explanation, let alone evidence. I think they would all shoot themselves harmlessly if the rock were rendered into melted glass.

5 posted on 07/28/2005 9:45:42 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: rdb3

Oh, how you doing, rd??


6 posted on 07/28/2005 9:46:00 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Fine. Fine as can be under the circumstances.


7 posted on 07/28/2005 9:46:39 AM PDT by rdb3 (You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think.)
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Why not bomb Mecca? Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO) has brought the issue to the table.

Look, I know that FrontPage is a conservative site but I have to point out something...when the lead sentence, which is what is quoted above, doesn't contextualize Tancredo's remarks for the average reader (much like what AP does) it doesn' give a fair portrait of the comments. Tancredo said 'if a nuke goes off in an American city *THEN* we should bomb Mecca'.

Not that we should just arbitrarily 'bomb Mecca'. Get it right!!

I think that most readers read the first few sentences of AP stories or pieces and draw conclusions.

When heard in context, Tancredo's comments are perfectly reasonable.

8 posted on 07/28/2005 9:49:26 AM PDT by soundandvision
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Finally, someone gives a strategic and intellectual rational for opposing the nuking of Mecca as opposed to an emotional based opposition.

Affirmative. That's why I said that it was fair. Dispassionate reasoning is a rare commodity these days.


9 posted on 07/28/2005 9:49:45 AM PDT by rdb3 (You'd PAY to know what you REALLY think.)
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To: rdb3

Glad to see you're up and typing.


10 posted on 07/28/2005 9:51:33 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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Dispassionate reasoning is a rare commodity these days.

You got that right, FRiend.

11 posted on 07/28/2005 9:51:55 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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Well, if CAIR opposes it, then I'm most likey to be FOR it.


12 posted on 07/28/2005 9:53:27 AM PDT by golfboy (character is doing what is right, when no one is looking)
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To: rdb3
Meanwhile, and expectedly, the author fails to tell us what his solution to the problem (of getting hit by terrorist-deployed nuclear bombs with no return address) would be.

So easy to say that nuking Mecca in such a circumstance would be the wrong thing to do when one has no alternative idea.

And "bringing the individual terrorists responsible to justice" just isn't going to cut it if hundreds of thousands (at least) of Americans are incinerated and dying of radiation poisoning.

13 posted on 07/28/2005 9:53:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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He makes some good points in general, but I think Mecca is the only place where such a strategy WOULD work.

If you want to shake the confidence of Muslims, show them that their god is powerless to stop the destruction of his most holy city. Scepticism in Islam would be the most important check on Islamic terrorism. People that lack complete faith in Allah don't kill themselves in his name.

Oh, and just make sure the Kaabaa is completely destroyed.
14 posted on 07/28/2005 9:54:18 AM PDT by mc6809e
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To: rdb3

BUMP for later.


15 posted on 07/28/2005 9:55:27 AM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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I have yet to hear someone give a rebuttal to this "bomb mecca" arguement: The threat of Mecca's destruction may put more pressure on moderate muslims to root out the badguys.

Hugh? Captain Ed? Bueller?

Clean up your mess, or someone else will.

www.hughcantwinemall.blogspot.com


16 posted on 07/28/2005 9:56:01 AM PDT by mills044
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It appears to me that the genie is out of the bottle. Obviously no American president can withstand the vaporizing of NYC and tens of millions of Americans. Something will have to be done to respond in kind. You can be sure that there are plans for such contingencies or there had better be.


17 posted on 07/28/2005 9:56:49 AM PDT by RichardW
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How about not posting the full article or linking to just the printable version?

If a site produces a good article, at least give them a chance to earn some $$$ as a reward.


18 posted on 07/28/2005 9:57:32 AM PDT by mc6809e
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When heard in context, Tancredo's comments are perfectly reasonable.

Even in context they're wrong, for the reasons stated above.

19 posted on 07/28/2005 9:57:35 AM PDT by r9etb
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Will men who love death, who glorify suicide bombing and praise God for beheadings and massacres, fear the destruction of holy sites?

Oh yeah! Destroy the site they pray to on mats 3 times a day! Destroy the most holiest of places that the Koran says every Muslim must go to at least once in their lifetime! Destroy their most sacred site and you destroy their God! The only reason we have not been attacked with nukes is that the terrorist fear this type of retribution.

But for the anti-Tancrado crowd: What is the proper response to Muslims nuking Washington DC or even the Vatican?

20 posted on 07/28/2005 9:59:31 AM PDT by Bommer
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