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1 posted on 07/28/2005 6:38:08 AM PDT by Pokey78
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Steyn ping!


2 posted on 07/28/2005 6:39:40 AM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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Outstanding article.

"If you’re looking for 'root causes' for terrorism, European-sized welfare programmes are a good place to start. Maybe if they had to go out to work, they’d join the Daily Mirror and become the next John Pilger. Or maybe they’d open a drive-thru Halal Burger chain and make a fortune. Instead, Tony Blair pays Islamic fundamentalists in London to stay at home, fester and plot."

How idiotic is it for a country to fight a stupid "war on terror" while at the same time helping to promote it and finance it through its own welfare system?

The most destructive aspect of a nanny-state welfare system is that it cultivates large numbers of useless malcontents. It's becoming more clear to me that the London terrorists probably have far more in common with a career criminal in Detroit than with their so-called Islamic "brethren" in the Middle East.

3 posted on 07/28/2005 6:47:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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Bump


5 posted on 07/28/2005 6:49:32 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("The sleeper must awaken!")
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Ping for Steyn.


6 posted on 07/28/2005 6:49:42 AM PDT by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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Excellent article!


8 posted on 07/28/2005 6:55:33 AM PDT by Frank_2001
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On target as usual.


11 posted on 07/28/2005 6:59:14 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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***But if you’re a Somali and you want to live in public housing at public expense for six years while you fine-tune your plot to blow up Warren Street Tube station, pas de problème!***


Tinfoil hat time...

Why are the Western nations acting like they want this conflict to bring them down?

Is it just multiculturalism gone haywire?

Or is is a "Phoenix" scenario they're looking for?
12 posted on 07/28/2005 6:59:27 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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What would victory look like? As fascism and communism were in their day, Islamism is now the ideology of choice for the world’s grievance-mongers.

Here's a similar observation about how the riot mentality froths from the disgruntled:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=13776
14 posted on 07/28/2005 7:17:36 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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"...and, in one of fate’s better jests, in this scenario you’re the Jews."

Appeasement is feeding others to a crocodile hoping he'll eat you last.

This crocodile has eaten our way right up to our necks thanks to Leftist appeasers.


15 posted on 07/28/2005 7:26:31 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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Ping


17 posted on 07/28/2005 7:28:48 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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Treating these murderers as criminals and their activities as crime in the ordinary sense is the 'Clinton- litigation is the answer to everything' pattern or problem resolution. Nothing gets resolved and things go from bad to worse. We know this already.
18 posted on 07/28/2005 7:32:53 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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Steyn Ping!


19 posted on 07/28/2005 7:33:32 AM PDT by Alexander Rubin
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If you’re not shy about taking on the Israelis and Russians, why wouldn’t you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Spaniards?

......

These "welcoming" countries have stood silent and fully aware of the evil acted upon the Jews. They thought they were immune. Take down the hard targets first and the rest will fall at your feet.

However, we must never underestimate this enemy. They are among the oldest and longest lived.

Please note the tagline and add me to the ping!


20 posted on 07/28/2005 7:34:18 AM PDT by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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No it's not.

It's "A global struggle against violent extremism."


21 posted on 07/28/2005 7:37:09 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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...the fact is that the jihad has held out a long time against very tough enemies. If you’re not shy about taking on the Israelis and Russians, why wouldn’t you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Spaniards?

Steyn has once again boiled this complex war into a single, well reasoned column which should be required reading by every govenment employee (as well as regular citizen) in the West. How does he do it?

27 posted on 07/28/2005 8:14:14 AM PDT by Gritty ("Madrid,London and the Theo Van Gogh murder are the opening shots of a European civil war-Mark Steyn)
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Bumpety Bump Steyn to the top ping...


29 posted on 07/28/2005 8:20:41 AM PDT by Experiment 6-2-6 (When the disbeliever sees this, he will say, 'How nice if I was also turned into sand.')
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bump


32 posted on 07/28/2005 8:30:02 AM PDT by rock58seg (RINO"s make the Republicans MINO"s (Majority In Name Only)!)
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Four days after Mr de Menezes became the most famous foreigner in the United Kingdom, Her Majesty’s Government is unable to give a definitive answer on his immigration status.

Hmmmmmmmm

35 posted on 07/28/2005 8:43:49 AM PDT by AmishDude (Join the Amishdude fan club: "LOL, you have a great sense of humor." -- msmagoo54)
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pay as you explode

To add further insult, after they tax you to finance the Jihad, they vote to confiscate your firearms and outlaw defending your home or person.

Socialism Sucks.

37 posted on 07/28/2005 8:47:42 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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Ummmmm, Radical Muslims don't seem to get along with anyone...

And whatever one’s opinion of the various local conflicts around the world — Muslims vs Buddhists in Thailand, Muslims vs Hindus in Kashmir, Muslims vs Jews in the Holy Land, Muslims vs Russians in Chechnya, Muslims vs Christians in Africa — the fact is that the jihad has held out a long time against very tough enemies. If you’re not shy about taking on the Israelis and Russians, why wouldn’t you fancy your chances against the Belgians and Spaniards?

If the jihad has its war aims, maybe we should start thinking about ours. What would victory look like? As fascism and communism were in their day, Islamism is now the ideology of choice for the world’s grievance-mongers. That means we have to destroy the ideology, or at least its potency — not Islam per se, but at the very minimum the malign strain of Wahabism, which thanks to Saudi oil money has been transformed from a fetish of isolated desert derelicts into the most influential radicalising force in contemporary Islam,

39 posted on 07/28/2005 8:54:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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