Posted on 07/27/2005 9:26:15 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
In the same week in July 2003 in which Bush administration officials told a syndicated columnist and a Time magazine reporter that a C.I.A. officer had initiated her husband's mission to Niger, an administration official provided a Washington Post reporter with a similar account.
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Mr. Pincus has not identified his source to the public. But a review of Mr. Pincus's own accounts and those of other people with detailed knowledge of the case strongly suggest that his source was neither Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's top political adviser, nor I. Lewis Libby, the chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, and was in fact a third administration official whose identity has not yet been publicly disclosed.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
"the New York Times is desperately trying to protect somebody's political viability"
Yup, or one might say "the NY Times is desperately trying to protect a treacherous lib mole in either State or CIA...."
Also consider that the reference to coercion may be meant to throw people off the trail, i.e., if her source is one of the recently retired lib moles who left the CIA.... if it's one of them they wouldn't have a superior who could still 'coerce' them to sign such a waiver, but Miller and her NY Times bosses may want everyone to think her source is still in the government.....
The point is that the New York Times and Miller realize that Fitgerald and others KNOW who Miller's source it - - it is NOT a secret (except from the public, for now). Therefore, the NY Times' reason for keeping their reporter in prison rather than let her NAME her source in sworn testimony before the grand jury could ONLY be that they fear serious damage to their own credibility and exoneration for their sworn enemy, Karl Rove.
They would rather let their reporter rot in jail than allow THAT to happen.
Valerie Plame herself would fit the description, would she not? Or Alan Foley, maybe...
Excellent observation. Underscores our suspicions and makes their desperate attempts to breathe life into this story more rational (in a thoroughly insane way).
In May, however, he joined the Kerry campaign, attended a Democrat Senatorial Policy Conference, met Nicholas Kristof of the NYTimes...and became "the New, Improved Joe Wilson".
He saved the paper?
His point seemed to be that in the wake of the Jayson Blair - Howell Raines fiascos staff morale and public esteem for the NY Slimes was at a low point. Apparently they thought pumping the Joe Wilson fantasy was an ideal way to revive their credibility. I know it sounds insane to real people, but we are not left-liberal reporters....
Just hope they get properly humiliated with the real facts about Wilson-Plame-gate, but they sure are doing their best to keep the public from finding out....
Something else I found, in an article about this particular case, which has probably been covered here but is interesting to repeat:
Anyone who's subpoenaed in the inquiry, noted the lawyer, can be almost certain that prosecutors aren't contemplating indicting him or her. Subpoenas are rarely sent to the targets of an investigation, and if they are, the recipients must be told in advance that they are considered targets—at which point they would almost certainly cite the 5th Amendment and refuse to answer questions. Link
Something else I found, in an article about this particular case, which has probably been covered here but is interesting to repeat:
Anyone who's subpoenaed in the inquiry, noted the lawyer, can be almost certain that prosecutors aren't contemplating indicting him or her. Subpoenas are rarely sent to the targets of an investigation, and if they are, the recipients must be told in advance that they are considered targets—at which point they would almost certainly cite the 5th Amendment and refuse to answer questions. Link
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If Rove gave the reporters a waiver to their confidentiality claim, then why is Judith Miller still in jail?
so then if Judith Miller was a target??
Watergate was founded on the charge that Nixon had abused the IRS to go after enemies. But the truth is he only TRIED. He was unable to get the IRS to cooperate.
Flash forward to Clinton. Only this year, an investigator was about to report how Clinton abused the IRS, and ordered many politically-motivated audits. We here are familiar with many of the names, including Paula Jones and others.
On an even more insidious level, now consider that there is always a shadow left wing government around, particularly at State and CIA. And the best evidence of that is Walson and Plame. Call it the bad Clinton aftertaste. Even worse, remember Bush let many of these people 'burrow down' after Slick and the Pantsuit carried off their last bit of silverware.
The media also plays a role. Because in this game, the disatisfied are always there to help the press 'do its job.' And with so many libs holding down postions of power and within the ranks, sources and stories are without end.
Squaring all this up with Plame-Wilson, however, shows how overconfident this 'arrangement' has become. The case at hand is about a non-covert agent, sending her partisan husband off on a mission under the guise of objectivity. And after the husband duly reports to a Senate committee his findings, he immediately (actually not even immediately) misrepresents his work, and 'outs' his un-outable wife just to muddy the waters.
Enter the press to play their part in advocacy journalism. Unlike their 'work' during Clinton, where nothing is ever found or really investigated (except Monica, thanks to Drudge), we find this thundering herd of dunderheads busy tripping over themselves, and never even taking the time to catch a breath. As a result their stories never have the 'connectedness' to bring the reader up to speed about what is known and what isn't. Instead, all or most stories are projections by the reporter that keep liberal hope alive that Rove or Bush will be destroyed at the end of the day.
As a result their stories never have the 'connectedness' to bring the reader up to speed about what is known and what isn't
I can barely stand to read a newspaper's version of a story anymore.
Modern "journalism" has undergone the same disastrous transformation that crippled the CIA during the '80s and '90s when the agency decided to rely on satellites rather than on agents in the field. Most of today's journalists do their "investigating" from the comfort of their computer screens rather than by pounding the street.
Journalism has become a variant of the old saw about three blind men examining an elephant, except in journalism's case it's three liberals examining the elephant and they keep getting their hands around the same part of the elephant, again and again.
Three lines of thought. 1. Joe Wilson is Judith Miller's source. 2. Another journalist is Judith Miller's source. 3. One of Colin Powell State Dep't Dimwit/RINO brigade is the source.
I agree Fitzgerald's not investigating that angle. I'm just tossing out some leads in response to the question about Turkey.
I always find it interesting when the MSM characterizes situations this way when it has been admitted that it was the reporters who told the administration officials. It is even more interesting how people just glide over points like this in their haste to focus on other points. That's how urban myths begin.
-PJ
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