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In Bush Win, House Narrowly Approves CAFTA
Associated Press ^ | July 27, 2005 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 07/27/2005 9:14:44 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: clearlight
"NAFTA was a badly negotiated deal that was sold as a job creator for our country." - clearlight

Support your argument. Show me facts.

Are there fewer American jobs today than back when NAFTA was first ratified in 1993?

Are American salaries lower today than in 1993?

Now, with those answers in hand, does NAFTA look better or worse than back before you knew that data?

101 posted on 07/27/2005 10:07:05 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RWR8189
The freer the markets the freer the people!

And the freer the people the greater the wealth.

102 posted on 07/27/2005 10:07:15 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: onyx
That doesn't sound like a "cure for insomnia" to me....

Hmmm...(imagining the painting :-)

103 posted on 07/27/2005 10:07:37 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: jeremiah
You don't pay much attention to the economy do you?

Or do you suffer from delusions, and need medication?

If this is a Depression, forget prosperity! I LOVE this stuff!

104 posted on 07/27/2005 10:08:27 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: F16Fighter


At least you recalled the 'painting' -- you have mail.

I need to call this one a night.


105 posted on 07/27/2005 10:08:34 PM PDT by onyx (North is a direction. South is a way of life.)
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To: ohioWfan

I know. Myself and my family are practically living in Hooverville, with my earnings having doubled last year and everyone else in my family gainfully employed. Time to join the breadline I tell ya!


106 posted on 07/27/2005 10:08:44 PM PDT by Clemenza (Life Ain't Fair, GET OVER IT!)
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To: jeremiah
George Bush will go down in history as the man that brought the second "great depression" onto America.

Wow, sounds scary. So, let's hear your prediction. What will the unemployment rate be 1 year from today? 2 years from today? 3 years? 5 years? 10 years?

You seem to know so much, so lay it out for all to see. So we can laugh at you, when you're proven wrong.

107 posted on 07/27/2005 10:08:49 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Clemenza
"HA HA! How's it feel to be on the same losing side as Maxine Waters?"

Stop. Now I feel violated :-D

108 posted on 07/27/2005 10:09:10 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Toddsterpatriot
You're just angry because we created 21 million jobs since NAFTA.

That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. Can you tell me how you know those jobs were created by NAFTA? No? I thought so.

109 posted on 07/27/2005 10:09:24 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Oh no!!! The jackbooted thugs of the OAS just confiscated my vitamin C. Put down the bong and back away slowly. LOL!

Try actually reading CAFTA. No jackbooted thugs. Just Bayer and Merck selling the "safe", FDA-approved versions to you at 10 times the price you pay now. But go ahead and laugh it up. I'm sure you don't use vitamins or supplements, right?

110 posted on 07/27/2005 10:10:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: MinorityRepublican
Hard to believe the vote was only two votes close. I thought more Democrats would be on board with this thing. After all, there were bipartisan support in passing NAFTA in 1994.

One vote, twenty votes, it don't matter. The fix was in. A done deal. It was going to pass regardless of what Joe and Jane American want.

111 posted on 07/27/2005 10:11:03 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: RoyalsFan
Why couldn't central America lower those tariffs without some 800 page document labeled as "free" trade!?

I'm not sure where you got the number 800 from (an individual agreement, not the whole thing?).

But from a previous link, the whole shebang was like 25,000 pages.

As for your question, I've gotten more answers then I can count.

112 posted on 07/27/2005 10:11:28 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: F16Fighter
"that presumes a One World Government syndicate isn't actually calling the shots."

Without getting too far into tin foil, do you think that One World Government types like seeing their World Trade Centers getting knocked down by passenger jets, subway trains blown up by suicide bombers, and anthrax mailed to their elite mailboxes?

113 posted on 07/27/2005 10:11:57 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: RWR8189

This is horrible :(

Bush vote in 2004 was such a waste!


114 posted on 07/27/2005 10:12:03 PM PDT by nikola
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To: RWR8189
The freer the markets the freer the people!

Free to force people off their land. Free to jump the borders. Free to foist the liabilities on taxpayers.

Such are not free markets.

115 posted on 07/27/2005 10:12:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: RoyalsFan
Can you tell me how you know those jobs were created by NAFTA? No? I thought so.

I said created since NAFTA, not created by NAFTA. Now that we cleared that up, where are the disastrous side effects of NAFTA? It's been more than 10 years. We should be in a Great Depression or something, right?

116 posted on 07/27/2005 10:12:12 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: Clemenza
I noticed the soup lines when I went to the big city.

I've never seen anything this horrible before.

(How much you want to bet these people aren't old enough to remember Jimmy Carter's 'malaise'??.......Half the posts here are pure insanity!)

117 posted on 07/27/2005 10:12:17 PM PDT by ohioWfan ("If My people, which are called by My name, will humble themselves and pray.....")
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To: montag813
Just Bayer and Merck selling the "safe", FDA-approved versions to you at 10 times the price you pay now.

Yeah, ping me when the prices go up 10 times. Snicker.

118 posted on 07/27/2005 10:13:06 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with Marx, the AFL-CIO and E.P.I. please stop calling yourself a conservative!!)
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To: ohioWfan
"Does my buying products from the business down the street mean that I run it?"

As far as I'm aware, Ohio's not yet abutting the Mexican border, but who can tell these days? ;-)

OWF -- this is about control and sovereignty -- and surrendering it to NWO Internationalists.

We've already surrendered our border -- OR, do you disagree?

119 posted on 07/27/2005 10:13:38 PM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Prince Caspian
Exactly. It is possible for a rich country to trade with a poor country and not lose. In fact both can gain. To see an example, play the Desert Island Trading Game at libertyarcade.org.
120 posted on 07/27/2005 10:14:10 PM PDT by burzum
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