Bush presses for CAFTA as DeLay predicts win

Reuters ^ | Jul 27, 2005

[eleni121]

Since NAFTA the US Economy has added 18 million jobs and our unemployment rate remains low.

Same thing with CAFTA. Stop listening to your union buddies. At least question their socialist protectionist mentality.

[eleni121]

You stand with the Democratic Underground that's where you stand.

A little competition never hurt anyone.

[hedgetrimmer]

18 million unskilled labor jobs.

Illegal aliens are the only group with a positive job outlook in this country today.

[OpusatFR]

"added 18 million jobs..."

Breakdown and stats big boy.

Service, manufacturing, banking, finance industry, construction? What....

[hedgetrimmer]

Now comes your 20 paragraph convuluted explanation as rebuttal.

I didn't forget you have a hard time with reading and comprhension.

[eleni121]

INCREASED EXPORTS AND INVESTMENT FLOWS

INCREASED TOTAL TRADE AND BROADER ECONOMIC TRENDS

BENEFITS FOR ALL NAFTA PARTNERS

PROGRESS FOR ENVIRONMENT AND LABOR

The US cannot afford to stick its head in the sand.

[slowhand520]

I love it. Neo-Cons Vs. Paleo-Cons.

[Happy2BMe]

"Since NAFTA the US Economy has added 18 million jobs and our unemployment rate remains low."

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Given your seemingly indepth knowledge on the subject, can you go into any further details on the benefits NAFTA has had on the United States economy and job market please?

[hedgetrimmer]

At least question their socialist protectionist mentality.

As opposed to the socialist globalist mentality of "free trade" and the WTO? How socialist is it that Americans must raise the standard of living in third world countries using our economy and tax dollars to do it? How socialist is it that the WTO always couches their rules in the position of "rich" countries vs. "poor".

In Americas formerly egalitarian society, the right to trade was based on the benefits to Americans, not on the ability to milk the American people for globalists welfare for nations.

[U.H. Conservative]

You forgot massive increases in illegal immigration. Wasn't NAFTA supposed build the Mexican economy?

Or how about the influx of South American gangs such as MS-13 that have ties with terrorists?

Yeah, that's success we should really want to emulate.

[johnb838]

Once again this proves the point that we did better opposing the rats than we do with our party laying on their backs for a liberal republican president.

Give me a conservative or give me freakin' @ss-rats.

[Happy2BMe]

What do these people know about NAFTA that the congressmen and senators I have been discussing this issue with this afternoon don't?

[hedgetrimmer]

You stand with the Democratic Underground that's where you stand.

No, I don't. I stand with myself and all the other Americans who want our sovereignty back.

We have pro-CAFTA people posting on this forum who aren't Americans and care nothing for our rights and sovereignty. Do you stand with them?

[eleni121]

Read it yourself. I cannot imagine why there is anyone who would dispute the success of NAFTA ...except maybe some protectionist left wingers who ear competition in the marketplace.

https://www.cato.org/dailys/12-23-02-2.html

[eleni121]

That's who fear....

[jpsb]

"Anyone care to start a CAFTA HALL OF SHAME webpage?"

My webserver is down today, but when I get home I'll fire it back up and start a (moderated) "CAFTA HALL OF SHAME" thread on it that yall (me too!) can use.

[U.H. Conservative]

You view Cato as an unbiased source in this issue?

[eleni121]

I want to expand rights and prosperity...that is what the free market is about.

Building economic walls is self defeating and unAmerican.

[Ex-expromissor]

"You mention all these CONgressmen and women but where are they when it comes to taking a public stance regarding the direction this country is heading?"

I should have been more precise. I meant that I believe we can find more Ron Paul's out there and that we need to find them and then elect them. You are correct, there aren't enough of these folks out there, but I believe they can be found. In fact they must be found, if we are to turn this ship around. It has taken a very long time for this country to reach this state of affairs and in turn I believe it will take a very long time to correct it.

"I'm with you in the hopes we have more reps out there that'll stand up but I won't hold my breath."

Neither am I. But I have to keep the faith... for my children's future if nothing else.

"As far as the lobbying goes I believe it's not us small business guys who will ever have much clout with the reps.....these big corps. and foreign gov't.s are hiring former DC insiders left and right togain access that we'll never see in our lifetime........that's why the lobbying has got to be cut dramtically."

OK... But how do we "cut" lobbying without cutting funding from people like me should my company grow large enough to actually help make a difference? Who and how are we then getting our information from on these candidates? That leaves the media and public broadcasting... And who controls that? The very "insiders" that you just mentioned. So... have we now "cut" the "insiders" influence... or have we actually helped to eliminated all other "outside" influences?

This is still the best country on the planet, but I truly believe we are going down hill and unfortunately things might not change until we hit bottom, and I don't even want to think about that!

[hedgetrimmer]

My webserver is down today, but when I get home I'll fire it back up and start a (moderated) "CAFTA HALL OF SHAME" thread on it that yall (me too!) can use.

Be sure to post the link, when you get it running.