House will pass CAFTA tonight: DeLay

Reuters ^ | 07/27/05 | Reuters

[cotton1706]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republicans in the House of Representatives will approve a new free trade agreement with Central America late on Wednesday with the help of a few Democrats, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said.

"It will be a tough vote but we'll pass CAFTA tonight," DeLay told reporters after a meeting between President Bush and House Republicans. "We will honor our commitments to the south, we will protect our national security and will do it all with very few Democrats."

[Dat Mon]

Two questions...

Are the services provided by Americans in service jobs local or regional in nature?

Whats the comparative advantage for trade in services?

[Toddsterpatriot]

Are the services provided by Americans in service jobs local or regional in nature?

Some of the services I've provided had been local, regional, national and international.

Whats the comparative advantage for trade in services?

Americans are better educated, better trained and harder working than many workers in other countries. Oh yeah, more productive too.

[Dog Gone]

I don't think you're interested in being persuaded. I've read the text of the agreement and it will increase our exports by lowering their cost. It also allows American companies, like cell phone companies, into those countries for the first time.

Now, I've given you two good reasons why this is in our interest. Let's see if you want to play games or discuss whether those are good reasons or not.

[OXENinFLA]

CAFTA live debate/vote thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1451966/posts

[neutrino]

I've voted Republican for a long time now. I think I need to start looking for third-party candidates.

[Dog Gone]

It's going to pass. Under the terms of the Agreement, we had until the end of the year to pass it. It wouldn't be put up for a vote in July if it was going to fail.

And the wail of the Nader sympathizers here against anti-globalism will be loud. They'll be gathering rocks to throw at the next WTO meeting.

[atlanta67]

""I've voted Republican for a long time now. I think I need to start looking for third-party candidates.""


Spoken like a true loser

[Dat Mon]

You sound like you do consulting work...join the club.

You are, however, providing a higher skill level service, locally and internationally... not the norm for average Americans providing services...far from it.

Most lower skilled services are generated and provided locally at the clients work site....which is usually within a regional commute radius. ..although interstate trucking would be one exception.

If Americans are better educated and harder working...what do we want with foreign services anyways? How do they compete with us..and how do they trade their local services globally...if not physically relocating to the client country?

I might compromise on services in trade...if the number of service positions on each side of the equation was balanced...equal numbers. For every service worker admitted to US from a CAFTA country...an equal number of service workers from America go down there.

Is that in fact the case...as evidenced in the language of CAFTA?

[Dat Mon]

Those are two good reasons to have a trade agreement. Correct me if Im mistaken...those represent free trade of GOODS.

Lets see if you want to discuss the particulars in the language or not, being intimately familiar with it... in particular TRADE OF SERVICES.

Nope....this is not a game.

[Dog Gone]

I'm not sure how you define trade of services, but the opening of the insurance sector to American competition doesn't seem like a trade of goods at all.

[neutrino]

Spoken like a true loser

As are all Americans, when free traitin' destroys our nation's foundations.

[Dat Mon]

YOU SAID..."I'm not sure how you define trade of services,"

Forget how I define it..how does the language of CAFTA define it...give me some examples...

[Dog Gone]

No, you read CAFTA and come up with something you don't like. I'm not your research hound. I've read it. You read it. Then we can talk.

[Warhorse]

Well of course DeLay is a traitor, just like Clinton, who sold us out on China, and I participated in the Free Republic Washington Monument rally calling for his impeachment! And how come George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush never did anything to prosecute Clinton for his crimes?

Following is the result of the Lou Dobbs poll at 6:55 p.m. EDT this evening, Wednesday, of people who have been following this issue closely. Even though it does not claim to be a scientific poll, a scientific statistical poll would not be much different:

Do you think the Central American Free Trade Agreement should be approved or rejected by Congress?

Approved

  5%

232 votes

Rejected

  95%

4904 votes

Total: 5136 votes

[Dog Gone]

BWAAAHAHAHAHA. You guys think DeLay is a traitor. Just how far off the fringe of the earth do you live?

Who exactly do you support, Nancy Pelosi? She's right there with you.

[Dat Mon]

I have read through a number of pages...skimmed alot more pages....they list lots of impediments for US companies to go in and provide services down there...but no restrictions on foreign companies coming in and providing services here.

But that may be my unfamiliarity with the agreement...you may know of language which shows my conclusion is incorrect.

Ive keyed in on services aspect...others have keyed in on the jurisdiction and enforcement aspects. Both can be put to rest by showing language in the agreement which safeguards American interests.

Contracts 101.. I pay a lawyer good money to put language in MY contracts to protect MY interests. What the hell did we pay our negotiators to negotiate...what did they put in this 2000 page document on our behalf?

[jackbill]

Pat Buchanan might be persuaded.

[Dog Gone]

Yes, a Costa Rican company come into Illinois and establish a cell phone company. It doesn't mean that they can staff it with Costa Ricans. Our immigration and work rules for visas are not changed by this agreement.

Nor are the Costa Ricans likely to establish such a company.

But in exchange for them letting us do so, which we will, we had to allow them to do the same here.

I don't see how we are the losers.

[hoosierham]

Time to make turtle(or terrapin) soup!

It amazes and disgusts me how many people who claim to be patriotic and conservative citizens of the United States of America turn out to be socialist globalists. And it starts at the top! A president who won't enorce or protect his nation's borders,who wants to undercut his nation's workers and who demands his nation's people accept ever more intrusive government in the name of false security---and he was the better of the two choices? No wonder so few people vote.The silent -at -the -ballot-box majority did not vote for Bush or Kerry they voted "none of the above"! But nobody counted those votes in our heads I win, tails you lose system.

A good accounting of rights lost will show Republicans are just as eager as Democrats to put gov't in charge of more of your life;the really neat thing is that the two? parties want to control different parts so that between them they willend up controlling everything!