Posted on 07/26/2005 9:12:29 AM PDT by unsung
Bin laden himself spoke of ensuring that "the pious Caliphate will start from Afghanistan." His chief deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, also dreamed of re-establishing the caliphate, for then, he wrote, "history would make a new turn, G-d willing, in the opposite direction against the empire of the United States and the world's Jewish government." Another Al-Qaeda leader, Fazlur Rehman Khalil, publishes a magazine that declares "Due to the blessings of jihad, America's countdown has begun. It will declare defeat soon," to be followed by the creation of a caliphate.
Or, as Mohammed Bouyeri wrote in the note he attached to the corpse of Theo van Gogh, the Dutch filmmaker he had just assassinated, "Islam will be victorious through the blood of martyrs who spread its light in every dark corner of this earth."
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It is disgusting, but before the West truly gets serious about Islam, it will likely require a WMD such as a nuclear attack here or in Europe. Mohammed was one with Satan and ALL followers of Islam are evil. It is evident that for the West to survive PC must tossed out with a vengeance. There will come a time when there is no "gray area" when dealing with Islam. The day will come when the battle will engaged. When that day arrives all who follow Islam must be terminated. God will sort his own. It will truly be a battle of good versus evil. Islam is pure evil. In the end, Islam will be gone.
It's time the planet is cured of the worldwide mental illness known as Islam. Destroy every Islamic holy site. Vaporize Mecca, Medina, Qom, Damascus, Tehran, Riyadh, Islamabad, Mogadishu and their disgusting mosque in our "Holy City" of Jerusalem.
Demonstrate to them that Allah, their false moon-god, is worthless and impotent. Destroying their faith is the only way to win this war.
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Tokyo, Berlin, Dresden. We haven't had much trouble from the Japanese or Germans lately. MacArthur and Patton must be spinning in their graves over our failure to learn from history.
5000 years of recorded history proves conclusively that "Peace" can never be "negotiated". The losers must beg for it.
I agree. Bush has had them on the ropes for awhile.
Precisely. History and their own 'book' is our witness.
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If we "dumped" Israel, they would have no choice but to start nuking their numerous enemies. Every U.S. president knew this. Its one of the reasons why the adults-in-charge of foreign affairs know that we have no choice but to be active in th mideast.
Last night, I watched the incurably moronic Rep. Jim McDermott pandering to a group of Seattle-area Muslims. To listen to him, you'd think that fear of Islamic terrorism is utterly irrational, and that the greater danger lies in our overreacting to it.
If I repeat that Islam is a Religion of Peace at every opportunity, will they treat me better when they win?
I'm just trying to figure out some of our leaders.
To finish my thought: nothing, abolutely nothing, will change the minds of the Jim McDermotts of the world. Islamists could nuke New York and Los Angeles and kill 20 million people, and Mcdermott would still be more concerned about our "overreaction," he would be more concerned about graffiti on a mosque than 20 million dead Americans. I'm not kidding; the man is that dumb.
True, I have no desire to start a nuclear war and I do
totally believe that they will be the one to use it first.
Nuclear scares me to death, but they have no regard for human life and I know that they'd use it in a heartbeat. I guess that is what worries me the most. How do we stop them?
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Basically we are talking the end of the world then.... if they drop one, then we drop one and then they drop one, we are all dead. I don't know if ALL Islam is evil. You could say that about the KKK and Christianity. It's just that the radical Islamist are totally wacked. They are do economically depressed and so brainwashed and so 3rd world. How and where do you begin? It will take 50+ years to ever even begin to change them
I guess it's not that the terrorists have a clear cut advantage, but it seems likely they could set off a nuke in america whenever i the impulse strikes, if we don't get the unconditional surrender of nations that support and enable them. Clearly muslims are not inherently evil and it's quite possible to be a devout muslim and be an ethically sound huuman being, but how do we tell which ones are just trying to live normal american lives and which ones are plotting the next 9/11.
Also, I know that islam's history, at least from 1000 to 1800 a.d. is not that much more violent than Christianity's, but if muslim communities and islam are capable of integrating with the West peacefully, how do you think this reconciles with how islam has never been able to reform or modernize like christianity did?? Have you ever lived in muslim countries and seen evidence that muslims are genuinely interested in integrating with the west?
Oh, and as for nuclear weapons, my point was why are we so scared to use them now when we did not hestitate to 60 years ago?
Oh, I don't think that we are losing, per say. I think that if the stupid politicians and PC police get out of the way and let the military do their job, we'd be able to fix Iraq, but... these wacko islamist are spread all over the world and all they will do is go into hiding for a few years and then strike again, like from '92 to 9/11. They do not understand our way and they only intend to kill us, there is no changing their minds. If we could round them all up, internment is sounding good, and keep them that way for 30 years, take their children away, so that they can not poison their minds, maybe we could change it. I know, that sounds nuts, but how do you stop it?
I know it sounds like I don't agree with the war, I do, I'm all for it and I do think that we are winning, but we are having to fight our own media and politicians along with the terrorists. Our battle is harder than any other war we have ever fought, I think. What would make me the happiest is to just drop a ton of MOAB's on the place, then pave it over, but there are so many innocent Iraqi's over there. I do wish that they would start turning these terrorists in, instead of cowering in the corners.
One Muslim caller proclaimed that Jesus would return soon, announce that Islam is the true religion, and take all Muslims to Heavan. I kid you not!
Basically we are talking the end of the world then....
They don't have near the firepower we do. If you take all the Muslim nations who have or proport to have bombs they may no more than 200 (Pakistan would have most of them and they are an ally). We have nearly 40-50 thousand nukes of all kinds from small tactical weapons of 0.1- 10 KT yield to 25 MT thermonuclear city busters. It would be suicide for them to attack us this way. They can drop a few and we can drop, and drop, and drop, and drop..... until they are all gone.
yes, the nuke option will hopefully never be used. It is clear that most Muslims are not terrorists. I have spent a lot of time since 9/11 studying Islam and I can't for the life of me see how anyone could follow the teachings of Mohammed. He was truly an evil human being. He seems to appeal to people who are prone to violence and have no respect for women. The WOT will last many decades. There is no doubt the terrorists are seeking WMDs. It is sometimes easy to just lump all Muslims into the terrorist camp. It is partially a human reaction to the utter insanity of radical Islam. The only way to cure radical Islam is to kill all those who advocate violence against non-Muslims. They cannot be reasoned with. The so called "innocent" Muslims will suffer because they aren't doing much to repudiate radical Islam.
That was in reference to his frequent talks of moderate islam, as he eloquently puts it. Of course being muslim does not necessarily imply that you are a hellbent killer, but it is not our job to figure out moderate muslims; that is the job of the muslim community themselves, to weed themselves out. If they are genuinely loyal to america, they should be making sure we never ever have to fear terrorism here again. They are quite capable of doing so.
I would not be here if it wasn't for dropping the bomb on Japan. My father was a Marine and he fought his way through the Pacific, Siapan, Tinian, Iwo Jima. He stated that they were training to assualt the mainland. His division would have attacked steep cliff in a mainland assualt. They were planning to send all Marine Divisions into Japan. He said they were expecting 95% casualties. He stated he was certain he wouldn't be here if they didn't bomb the b*stards. The decision for Truman was easy. He knew in the end he would save many millions of lives on both sides if he dropped the bomb. Truman did the right thing.
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