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Archives yield day-after Nagasaki aerial photos (If we are not vigilant we will see this here)
The Japan Times ^

Posted on 07/26/2005 12:26:25 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget



NAGASAKI (Kyodo) The Japan Map Center has found 29 negatives of aerial photographs of Nagasaki taken by the U.S. military a day after it dropped an atomic bomb on the city in 1945, in a discovery expected to help reveal the immediate effects of the attack.

The pictures, taken by a U.S. reconnaissance plane flying over the devastated city Aug. 10, 1945, were found at the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration.

They are believed to be the first aerial photos of Nagasaki taken a day after the bombing to be made public. The oldest such photos, taken Aug. 12, are currently kept by the Nagasaki Atomic Bomb Museum, the map company said.

Last December, Japan Map Center officials found documents showing the flight route of the reconnaissance plane and black-and-white negatives at a branch of the U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in Maryland, according to Kunio Nonomura, head of the center.

The officials brought back digitized copies of the negatives to Japan.

The map firm will publish some of the photos in an extra edition of its monthly magazine issued Aug. 1.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Japan; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: nagasaki; wwii
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1 posted on 07/26/2005 12:26:26 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Preaching to the choir... yeah I know
2 posted on 07/26/2005 12:30:33 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Wow, perfect timing. I was trying to explain to someone today what the effects would be on a city if terrorists actually did indeed get ahold of a nuclear weapon and ignite it in a major metropolitan area. Yeah, I know, yields are different and so are buildings - but between the two, it would be a similar situation.

That multiple bomb scenario that was brought up with Tom Tancredo? If this was one of several cities that looked similar in the aftermath - yeah, the response would not be friendly or well considered.

Damn frightening, to be honest.
3 posted on 07/26/2005 12:32:19 AM PDT by kingu
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To: kingu

Seems to have cleaned up the place quite nicely.
Mecca needs a dose, as does Tehran, and a couple other places.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 12:36:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

Medina, Karachi, Lahore, and Damascus for a start


5 posted on 07/26/2005 12:39:43 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

oh, and before i forget, I would be so damned tempted to add Paris to the list... but their nukes will come from within I am sure.


6 posted on 07/26/2005 12:41:53 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?)
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To: kingu

Nagasaki was a baby nuke by todays standards. what we would toss today is 100 times more powerfull than that. Same goes for what we might expect to be detonated here. Depends on how much fision material they get their hands on.


7 posted on 07/26/2005 12:42:39 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Having visited Peace Park in Hiroshima and seen the museum there, this photo crystalizes the very reasons the Bush Administration should be exercising more control over the US borders.

It's a matter of time before the heart of one of our cities looks like the aftermath of Nagasaki. I pray that it will never happen, but the hate that has been sewn among the jihadists assures us that the past is prologue.

It's easy to sit in the comfort of our homes and recklessly talk about nuking various places, but try visiting one of those places and see if you still agree. It's not as exciting as it may seem when you understand the suffering and misery of the victims. We can discuss the pros and cons forever and I see both sides of the argument.

In the long run, atomic/nuclear weapons are not and cannot be the playthings of mad, immature minds. I don't doubt that Truman wrestled with the question of dropping the bombs on Japan, and I doubt that he took much pleasure in their result. And, yet, reluctantly, the use of those weapons in that circumstance was the right call in the final analysis.

God willing, we will never see a repetition of those bombings.


8 posted on 07/26/2005 12:59:10 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Same goes for what we might expect to be detonated here.

Probably not. The biggest weapons that its practical to smuggle in are the aledged ex Soviet Suitcase bombs which are rather small devices (to the extent they exist at all).

Anything bigger would require a ship or plane for delivery, and those are getting pretty close scrutiny these days.

9 posted on 07/26/2005 1:17:26 AM PDT by konaice
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Military nukes are a whole lot smaller than you think. What once in Hiroshima took a plane to drop, we now shoot out of a cannon and it is a lot more powerful.

Think cannon shell, and then think lunch box.


10 posted on 07/26/2005 1:31:16 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
As most Japanese buildings were wood and paper at that time, I wonder how modern stone buildings would hold up in comparison? Hope I do not find out...
11 posted on 07/26/2005 1:35:45 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; All
Looks like it worked to me.     :)

Also looks like Mecca and Medina need to look soon...

12 posted on 07/26/2005 1:36:36 AM PDT by EUPHORIC (Right? Left? Read Ecclesiastes 10:2 for a definition. The Bible knows all about it!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

black and white says it all....Just a two picture lesson in how thousands of American troops lives were saved...


13 posted on 07/26/2005 1:41:27 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: American in Israel
As most Japanese buildings were wood and paper at that time, I wonder how modern stone buildings would hold up in comparison? Hope I do not find out...

The buildings themselves will probably stand up quite well. The church at ground zero in Nagasaki was one of the few stone buildings in the city. After the bombing, its walls were still standing. IIRC, a large part of the damage from the two blasts over Japan were from fire afterwards, not from the actual explosions.

14 posted on 07/26/2005 1:46:28 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

I'd really like to see the high res images if they are made available on the net. Those above photos look like about 12x20 city blocks, and the destruction is total all the way out to the edge of the second photo... So how far does the "nothing but dust and splinters" area go? And you know that for at least a mile after the buildings remained intact, that everyone died soon afterward.

Scary stuff.

Did anyone see the videos posted a while back of the cameras on board the old WW2 ships during a nuclear test? It's creepy watching a warship hull melt and disintegrate in just a couple of seconds.


15 posted on 07/26/2005 1:47:21 AM PDT by Advil
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To: American in Israel
As most Japanese buildings were wood and paper at that time,

Good mythology, but not true. At the Peace Park Museum, there are literally dozens of fragments of concrete that have images of people burned onto them.
16 posted on 07/26/2005 1:47:55 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Doesn't Europe remind you of a person so taken with a cult that they will drink poisioned Kool Aid of their own free will?


17 posted on 07/26/2005 2:14:54 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Register to vote as a Dem! You get to vote in their primaries and it screws up their polling data!)
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To: DustyMoment

True, but I suspect modern buildings are far more resistant to this kind of thing than Japanese buildings were then.

But, if you are a kilometer from a 1 megaton, I dont care if you live in a steel ball, you are toast anyway. I just suspect the damage radius will be smaller.

Kinda a moot point. Nukes will fry the world economy from 10,000 miles away. One thing about terrorists, the economy is their prime target. If they cannot build it, they want to destroy it.

It's a bully in a sandbox mentality.


18 posted on 07/26/2005 2:27:24 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

Thank you President Truman!! (The last democrat with the balls to protect American lives). To the Japanese - Paybacks are hell!! You got what you so richly deserved.


19 posted on 07/26/2005 2:41:22 AM PDT by jhroberts
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To: Advil
I heard that one of those blast test of the Atomic bomb with ships back in the 40's caused a aircraft carrier to be knocked out of the water and landed 1/4 away in the water.
20 posted on 07/26/2005 2:42:02 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The ( FOOL ) hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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