Posted on 07/25/2005 8:14:18 AM PDT by CHARLITE
Which document are you referring to? The one I recall being reported had a "S" next to the paragraph, which is not at all how classification is marked in government documents.
I'm not registering at TIME to read the article but if there are any quotes from Karl Rove or an "unnamed White House Source", Miller is in deep doodoo.
Actually Cicero, the Republicans have long controlled the CIA.
Starting with Bush Senior in the 80's.
Director of Operations approved Wilson's trip.
I think this whole "CIA hates bush" conspiracy tin foil hat stuff does us no good.
I mean if thats the best we have to offer, we are in trouble.
The senate Intelligence paper that people have cited here with claims that the Report debunks Wilson's trip is misleading..
AS only 3 republicans senators added that as an attachment to the report without the backing of any other members. And the rest of the document, doesnt say naything like that. IT just comes out of the blue. As I havent seen any of our elected officials point to that fact, confirms my belief, that that document holds no water. Otherwise we would be using it. The authors havent pointed to it at all. Just non elected peeps (aka no fall out form saying it)
I think this whole issue will be an egg on this administration. And the longer this goes on,and the closer to midterms we get, the more people will jump ship to avoid being taken down in its wake.
A shame, as we are accomplishing many things.
This sounds like a panel that is out of control of the prosecutor because Fitzgerald would NEVER linger on these minor differences of remembrance, especially when there are contemporaneous notes of it in Rove's email.
One may wonder until one notes your key phrase: "according to Cooper". His credibility is zilch. I'm sure the topic came up. I'm sure it was not the centerpiece of the questions he faced except to satisfy themselves they were being confronted with a bold-faced liar as they knew they had documentation such you cite that demonstrates Rove's superior memory and truth-telling.
Remember, these reporters were compelled by judges to testify and so far it's been unanimous their testimony is necessary and is not a fishing expedition.
From the news reports, it sounds like the folks on grand jury focused on two things in the Cooper testimony:
1) Was welfare discussed?
2) What is double secret probation?
This is scarey.
"The entire caper was concocted by Plame to discredit President Bush and throw a national election to John François Kerry. "
Hmmmmm...If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might say that Valerie gave John "aid and comfort" during Teresa's more violent rants...
We've been down this road before.............right, Mandy? < /sarcasm >
The Welfare Merry-Go-Round: Part 2
By MATTHEW COOPER
Given the other issues at hand, you might not think welfare reform would be a hot one for President Bush. But he has long wanted to toughen the 1996 law that led to a dramatic reduction in welfare rolls and imposed work requirements on many recipients--and he is now a step closer. ...
D.C. Grand Juries, however, are notoriously anti-Republican.
They could find a discrepancy and still find Rove at fault despite the exonerating memo. I'm not saying they will.
The entire process seems to be leading nowhere as far as serious charges perjury or obstruction. But when a special prosecutor has spent millions, it's embarassing to close the case and say. Sorry, nothing there. move on.
Don'tbedenied has said something that should be understood by all:
Rovegate is no longer (and really never was) about outing a covert Valerie Plame.
The issue has been "who leaked information from that secret memo" which contained info about Valerie Plame.
The memo was classified "Secret". Divulging the information in the memo to someone who doesn't have a Secret clearance is committing a crime. Reporters are denied access to Secret information.
If the prosecutor can show that Rove and/or Libby read that memo before they spoke to the reporters, he will have made a case against one or both for leaking the info, and for perjury, since Rove, at least, stated that he never saw the memo.
Now, we all believe that Rove and Libby are telling the truth, despite the discrepancies, and, in that case, they're home free.
The MSM screams of Plame being covert and outed are all crap. Months and weeks of it! And they knew it. They did it for the damage effect on Bush et al.
But the investigation is for real, and the prosecutor knows what he needs to bring charges against Rove or Libby or anyone else, and he'll keep at it until the grand jury expires. (While Judy Miller eats day-old peanut butter sandwiches for breakfast every morning. Every cloud has a silver lining, eh?) 8-D
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