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A Rove Perjury Rap? The speculation grows intense — without any evidence (CIA LEAK)
NATIONAL REVIEW ONLINE.COM ^ | JULY 26, 2005 | BYRON YORK

Posted on 07/25/2005 8:14:18 AM PDT by CHARLITE

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1 posted on 07/25/2005 8:14:20 AM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

As if reporters have never lied before.


2 posted on 07/25/2005 8:15:46 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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But sources familiar with the probe say the most frequently cited evidence for such speculation — an apparent inconsistency between Rove's and Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper's accounts of a July 11, 2003, telephone conversation — falls far short of being the basis for any prosecution, much less a perjury charge.

That only matters when the defendant is a Democrat, as history has shown.

3 posted on 07/25/2005 8:16:39 AM PDT by Brilliant
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As if reporters have never lied before.

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That is true, well, it has to be, because Dan Rather told me so!!!


4 posted on 07/25/2005 8:18:57 AM PDT by EagleUSA (S)
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Their second source was the Magic Eightball.


5 posted on 07/25/2005 8:21:23 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: CHARLITE

Why does nobody mention that they could be looking at whether COOPER is the one who lied in his testimony? It still is probably immaterial, but it is clear that of the two accounts Rove's looks accurate and Cooper's not.

And if Cooper also at some point testified that Rove brought up the topic, when in fact Cooper did; And if Cooper testified that he didn't have any idea who Plame was, but it turns out he had heard about her from his wife, maybe they have enough to at least look at whether he was trying to deflect the prosecuter from looking at him or his wife, and looking instead at Rove.


6 posted on 07/25/2005 8:24:03 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I am convinced the issue with Rove/Libby/whoever is not perjury or disclosing a covert agent, but is revealing "top secret" information i.e. the person who picked Wilson to investigate. For reasons I do not understand, the transmittal of the information from the CIA was stamped secret. So the question then becomes did Rove /Libby/whoever learn about Plame from the top secret document or did they learn it from journalists? Of course in a sane world the question would be why did the CIA send a flim-flam man, husband of an opponent of Bush's policies, to investigate a serious issue and then why did the CIA try to keep the nepotism of the co-conspirator's secret?
7 posted on 07/25/2005 8:24:34 AM PDT by don'tbedenied
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I can't believe the MSM is still kicking this dead horse...
Once again, Plame WAS NOT A "COVERT AGENT" and hence was not "protected." She was not stationed overseas and had not been within the five year time span. Working at Langley and driving through the gate with a name tag on her blouse and a CIA decal on her windshield does not, I repeat does not qualify this desk jockey as a "covert agent!" LOL This whole business is a non-issue. gezzzzzzz
Point, Game, Set, Match
8 posted on 07/25/2005 8:27:12 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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"Why does nobody mention that they could be looking at whether COOPER is the one who lied in his testimony?"


EXACTLY. All of the MSM tools assume that Cooper, the pet poodle of a key 'Rat strategist, is the one who must be believed, when Rove's contemporaneous email makes it apparent that Cooper is either 'forgetting' (how convenient) or consciously lying.

This whole brouhaha about the testimony is a trivial distraction anyway, from the REAL issue: how Joe Wilson and his left-liberal cronies plotted to undermine the POTUSA with their asinine 'scandal' about the Niger uranium issue - on which Wilson has been shown to be a total FRAUD. It is Wilson who should be prosecuted, or at the very least publicly humiliated and ostracized from public life. But the 'Rats love anyone who they think helps the Moveon.org agenda....


9 posted on 07/25/2005 8:33:34 AM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: don'tbedenied; ThreePuttinDude; Beth528; SMARTY; CyberAnt; nothingnew; Cornpone; ...
"Of course in a sane world the question would be why did the CIA send a flim-flam man, husband of an opponent of Bush's policies, to investigate a serious issue and then why did the CIA try to keep the nepotism of the co-conspirator's secret?"

This is the crux of this entire story. I've said from the outset that Plame instigated the entire conspiracy, using her husband as a tool, and probably her friend, Judith Miller as the media contact to help spread the "news" that Joey Yellowcake couldn't find any "evidence" of a Niger-Iraq connection.

The entire caper was concocted by Plame to discredit President Bush and throw a national election to John François Kerry. That is what the Fitzgerald investigation is trying to verify. It's not about a few seconds out of an already short, 2 minute conversation between Rove & Cooper.

Fitzgerald is doing big game fishing. He's not looking for minnows.

Char :)

10 posted on 07/25/2005 8:36:14 AM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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The entire caper was concocted by Plame to discredit President Bush and throw a national election to John François Kerry.
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Exactly - let's hope the investigation proves it out. It will be an excellent (another) club for the GOP candidate to use against the "VERACITY" of the left...


11 posted on 07/25/2005 8:41:10 AM PDT by EagleUSA (S)
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One wonders why the Grand Jury, according to Cooper, spent so much time on the subject of whether he'd discussed welfare reform.

This sounds like a panel that is out of control of the prosecutor because Fitzgerald would NEVER linger on these minor differences of remembrance, especially when there are contemporaneous notes of it in Rove's email.


12 posted on 07/25/2005 8:43:54 AM PDT by wildbill
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ya know, these "independent prosecutors" are a waste of time and taxpayers money...
these "independent prosecutors" will drag out these investigations for YEARS just so they can continue to receive a check...and at the "end of the day" they'll indict a ham sandwich just so they can say they did something...
13 posted on 07/25/2005 8:44:15 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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I can't believe the MSM is still kicking this dead horse...

I turned on WRKO (Boston) as usual this a.m. The hosts are Peter Blute (former one-term Republican congressman from somewhere in MA) and someone called Scotto. The two of them had Rove convicted. They were citing that guy (Johnson?) -- ex-CIA, self-described Republican, former classmate of Valerie Plame -- who gave the Dem response Saturday as if he were Moses.

Turned it off when I couldn't take any more. Turned FNC on. They were on the same subject with a similarly oriented "expert" or whatever they're calling him. Not sure who it was.

Exactly how long is the distribution list for Dem talking points (or "stalking points" as a FReeper serendipitously typoed yesterday) memos nowadays?

All these people seem to think they know exactly what's in Fitzgerald's mind and what he's looking for. Is there any way they could know that unless Fitzgerald himself or someone working directly under him is leaking?

14 posted on 07/25/2005 8:44:23 AM PDT by maryz
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Cooper threw a sh!t-boomerang!


15 posted on 07/25/2005 8:45:00 AM PDT by johnny7 (Racially-profiling since 1963)
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To: CHARLITE

Thank god i've found some people that think the way i do. This whole thing has been a smoke screen the entire time. Plame and Wilson are slime, as is Cooper.


16 posted on 07/25/2005 8:47:24 AM PDT by BonesfromHeaven
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To: EagleUSA

These rats have nothing to go on. Thats why you have babs streisand telling the media to not let the Rove thing die. What a bunch of first class jokes.


17 posted on 07/25/2005 8:47:27 AM PDT by Cougar66 (If Sonny had EZ Pass, "The Godfather" would have been a completely different movie)
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an apparent inconsistency between Rove's and Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper's accounts of a July 11, 2003, telephone conversation

So why aren't we discussing a possible COOPER perjury indictment?

18 posted on 07/25/2005 8:48:28 AM PDT by montag813
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To: don'tbedenied
"I am convinced the issue with Rove/Libby/whoever is not perjury or disclosing a covert agent, but is revealing "top secret" information i.e. the person who picked Wilson to investigate. For reasons I do not understand, the transmittal of the information from the CIA was stamped secret. So the question then becomes did Rove /Libby/whoever learn about Plame from the top secret document or did they learn it from journalists? Of course in a sane world the question would be why did the CIA send a flim-flam man, husband of an opponent of Bush's policies, to investigate a serious issue and then why did the CIA try to keep the nepotism of the co-conspirator's secret?"

Because they are all in on the cabal.

19 posted on 07/25/2005 8:49:30 AM PDT by shamusotoole
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The political duplicity of Democrats never ceases to amaze me. And all the while they cry about "underhanded" Republicans. I personally hope the Democratic Party goes right in the toilet - which would be an appropriate place.


20 posted on 07/25/2005 8:49:57 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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