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To: Rippersnapper
well, I do think that Jurine and the brothers are up to their eyeballs in this situation...

I don't know if they're "evil" but I do think they are typical protected and coddled young men that feel entitled to anything and everything....

It seems like Nat was a good kid.......

so I can't speak against her.....

I do think that the reason nobody stayed with Nat or grabbed hold of Nat's arm before she went off with the Arubans is that most of the kids there were probably pretty snockered themselves....

604 posted on 07/25/2005 10:27:41 PM PDT by cherry
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I thought this one was interesting....aruba.com

Author: debbie (---.mc.at.cox.net)
Date: 07-22-05 18:06

My fiancee is a Delta Pilot, and former F-15 Air Force Pilot. He is also a diver. He gave up his vacation to go to Aruba to help search for Natalee. He was there 9 days, and he lost 17 pounds, barely sleeping, and not being able to eat. He fell in love with the Aruban people. I decided not to take my vacation, and donated the money I had sat aside to the Equa Search Team. I am only telling you this because I have had a lot to say here, but I also tried to help in a very small way.
We all know when we travel in a foreign country we are subject to its laws. I don't have a right to have a problem with the Aruban System.
I have a problem with people within that system who blew it. Before anyone jumps in here to say that 11 days didn't matter, I am telling you that it did. Those 11 days cost Beth Twitty the small comfort of taking her precious daughter home, and had America not been watching, I hate to think what would have happened to the security guards.


607 posted on 07/25/2005 10:37:47 PM PDT by toldyou
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To: cherry
I think they are all into this up to their eyeballs too. BUT, again, to what severity? And what about Joran's dad? It seems he too is involved.

I'm not convinced that the Kalpoes have been living protected lives. I do think there is a type of caste or class system in Aruba. I think Joran uses people and the Kalpoes because of THE car.

I'm just kind of waiting for more facts to come out.

There wasn't that much time that elapsed between the guys shielding Natalee and their all leaving. I'm still not buying that she was afraid to go to the restroom alone, yet left the group once they got outside so she could catch up with another group. Even if ONE GUY had escourted her, just ONE, she may still be alive. (I hope she is, anyway)

She went with a group and left with a group. She was grabbed in between groups.

Incidentally, the two guys that had incidents with Joran, one was a Twitty and the other a Holloway. What are their relations to Natalee? I thought I'd heard that one was a cousin. What is the other?

608 posted on 07/25/2005 10:41:35 PM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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