[Rippersnapper]

We have been down this road many times with Ripper previously. She does mental gynmanstics to slant the case against Natalee and in favor of Joran, because she has a son who lives his life like Joran.

You can't even keep your dirty lies straight. I had spoken about my STEP BROTHER and was pointing out how not everyone that is good looking, had good grades, parties a lot and attracted good looking gals was a sociopath.

I am asking the questions that most will NOT ask because their bias gets in the way. I have said before that I think Joran is involved, but to what degree is the big question.

[GarySpFc]

I apologize for confusing you with Gingersnaps.

[cherry]

well, I do think that Jurine and the brothers are up to their eyeballs in this situation...

I don't know if they're "evil" but I do think they are typical protected and coddled young men that feel entitled to anything and everything....

It seems like Nat was a good kid.......

so I can't speak against her.....

I do think that the reason nobody stayed with Nat or grabbed hold of Nat's arm before she went off with the Arubans is that most of the kids there were probably pretty snockered themselves....