Posted on 07/25/2005 6:15:39 AM PDT by British and Proud
The following letter was sent by a Baptist Minister to the head of the 'moderate' Muslim Council of Britain a few days ago in the wake of the terror campaign on London transport.
Dear Sir Iqbal Sacranie,
BBC2 NewsNight: The teachings of Islam are very, very clear.
I was very surprised to hear your public statement before the whole nation, which would therefore include Her Majestys Government and the Church, that the teachings of Islam condemn and forbid acts of violence such as the odious acts that were carried out last Thursday.
I would, as a community leader, find it extremely helpful to understand how, as a non-Muslim, I should understand the following verses from the Quran:
Quran 33:60 Truly, if the Hypocrites stir up sedition, if the agitators in the City do not desist, We shall urge you to go against them and set you over them. Then they will not be able to stay as your neighbours for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them. Whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain without mercya fierce slaughtermurdered, a horrible murdering.
Quran 5:33 The punishment for those who wage war against Allah and His Prophet and make mischief in the land, is to murder them, crucify them, or cut off a hand and foot on opposite sides...their doom is dreadful. They will not escape the fire, suffering constantly.
Quran 9:5 When the sacred forbidden months for fighting are past, fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, torture them, and lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.
Quran 8:12 Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.
Quran 4:94 Believers, when you go abroad to fight wars in Allahs Cause, investigate carefully, and say not to anyone who greets you: You are not a believer! Coveting the chance profits of this life (so that you may despoil him). With Allah are plenteous spoils and booty.
Quran 47:33 Believers, obey Allah, and obey the Messenger. Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.
Quran 9:3 Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.
Quran 9:12 If they violate their oaths and break treaties, taunting you for your Religion, then fight these specimens of faithlessness.
Quran 9:88 The Messenger and those who believe him, strive hard and fight jihad with their wealth and lives (in Allahs Cause).
For brevity, I will not quote the Hadith which reveals the actual practice of Islam by Mohammed. I do, however, append a chronology early Islam, which details many of the known wars Islam was engaged in, almost all of which were offensive.
Consequently, I have to confess that, as a non-Muslim, it is not abundantly clear that Islam teaches peace. I do, however, begin to conceive how some young Muslim men, who are not youths (as you yourself described them), might accidentally assume that these verses mean what they say. I would welcome any clarification that the Quran provides which I, as a Christian, may have inadvertently missed. This will help me enormously in my relations with Muslims in our local community as well as the teaching I give to my church.
If, however, you are unable to provide the clarification, I will, reluctantly, be forced to conclude that either the Quran should not be considered the basis of Islamic thought, or that the statements you gave to the country are not entirely correct and will then discuss with my church what action we should take.
Yours sincerely,
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bump 4 later study
Islam = is slum or is slime
is slime full of two faced liars.
trust is slime at your own risk.
What was the reply?
"Death to Britain!"?
Bump..
bump...Good post. Welcome to FR!
Islamists are totally for peace: the Peace of the Dead.
Islam is not a religion no more than communism is a religion. It is simply fascism disquised as a religion. When our politicians realize this then we'll win this war.
Thank you Jimmy Carter, you stupid naive sob... for giving us the Ayatohlah... etc...and disposing of the Shah of Iran...
I blame you and your weak presidency for what we are reaping now...
nick
Yikes!
This guy has guts writing a letter w/a name and address essentially dismissing how serious those "moderate Islamics" are!
Off w/his head!
"Do not falter; become faint-hearted, or weak-kneed, crying for peace.
This defines the Liberals and what needs to be said to them directly!
"Peace, peace!" but there is no peace!
Ping
These are excellent question that will not be answered in a straight-forward manner. Islam is THE threat to civilization that currently exists.
Equal rights before the law do not exist under Islamic law. One citizen, one vote does not exist under Islamic law. Freedom of worship does not exist under Islamic law. Minorities -- that is, non-Muslims -- enjoy rights and protections at the pleasure of the Muslim community that are ever-subject to the capriciousness of a rights-canceling fatwa. Indeed, Islamic law is not the basis of a religion, as the Judeo-Christian world understands religion, but is rather a controlling ideology that is nothing short of totalitarian.
The Flanstein is an excellent blog for finding out the truth about islam...
http://flanstein.blogspot.com
OFFENSIVE JIHAD FOR WAR EXPLAINED
"Mainstream" Islamic site "Islam Q+A": KILL THE JEWS
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