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1 posted on 07/25/2005 4:35:49 AM PDT by johnny7
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Asking the question about Bill is an academic curiosity.
Asking the question about Hillary is to predict and prepare for the next 4 years.

Anyone care to answer the far more relevant second question?


95 posted on 07/25/2005 6:38:59 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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"Why Did So Many People Hate Bill Clinton?"

  1. Clinton could not tell the truth about anything, ever.
  2. Clinton transferred our national security to China in exchange for China funding his campaign for re-election. Most traitors end up being hated.
  3. Clinton is an unconvicted traitor, and deserves the benefit of the doubt under our system of not being guilty until proved beyond a reasonable doubt.
  4. In Clinton's case the "beyond a reasonable doubt" is only marginally semantic if you are willing to examine the evidence.

97 posted on 07/25/2005 6:41:54 AM PDT by Reaganghost (Our freedoms will never be safe as long as a single Democrat holds elected public office.)
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In its persistence and intensity, it goes far beyond anything that comparable numbers of people have felt about Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan or either of the presidents Bush.

I disagree. I think the current Bush-haters out-do anything conservatives ever felt about Clinton.

108 posted on 07/25/2005 6:58:46 AM PDT by knuthom
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Millions of Americans despise Bill Clinton. ...

Because he is a traitor and that is hard to overcome. The slimeball did get by with some of the sheep out there, but not all of us.

He snuck away from Oxford, and his handlers there, and was escorted by other handlers through Europe, into Oslo, and on to Moscow. His indoctrination there can only be left to the files of the KGB.

Their candidate became elected. They would have won except for one small fact: Ronnie Reagan beat them first. The traitor xlinton was left without soviet handlers, only the homegrown type. These scum who helped xlinton in his power are part of the 'homegrown type'. They desire power for themselves and they wish the ultimate power of communist control over the people.

Everything the scumbag did after his indoctrination behind enemy lines while my brothers were dying is tainted, as is everyone who had anything to do with the scumbag, as did every accomplishment of the scumbag, and most unfortunately, as we all did as a nation. Why won't he address the issue about these forty days and why hasn't someone written a book?

109 posted on 07/25/2005 7:15:10 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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I never hated him, but neither had I any respect for him or Her Heinous.


112 posted on 07/25/2005 7:25:07 AM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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On the up side, it was like having the David Spade character "Joe Dirt" as president.


117 posted on 07/25/2005 7:46:18 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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Maybe its because of 9/11 and all the missed opportunities to fight islamic facist during his term? Maybe because as he was getting his willy smoked terrorist were killing americans around the world.. If we had a responsible media Bill Clinton would be hiding in shame in Arkansas....


118 posted on 07/25/2005 7:53:37 AM PDT by partyrepub
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We must not forget that the power behind the Bill Clinton presidency was not Slick Willie, but was instead the evil witch Hitlery. Take a look at his political appointees: Donna Shalala, Janet Reno, Bill Lan Lee, Jamie Gorelick, Carol Browner, etc.--all friends of Hitlery. The Branch Davidian standoff and subsequent immolation of eighty-some men, women and children was orchestrated by Hitlery and Janet Reno in an attempt to convince the American people that the country was threatened by a "vast right wing conspiracy". Yes, indeed, Hitlery was a threat then and is today as she attempts to cloak herself with the "mainstream" mantle.


120 posted on 07/25/2005 8:00:05 AM PDT by RightWingConspirator (Glad that Ted the Boorish Drunk, Hitlery the Witch and John Fonda/Fraud Kerry are not my senators.)
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Did? I think "Do" is more appropriate.


123 posted on 07/25/2005 8:12:16 AM PDT by ampat
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Billary is a couple that makes the sacrament of marriage a mockery and shoves it into your face at the same time.

Each clings to a shredded union just to see what political gain and power can be garnered from it.

Each aspires to high and noble positions in this great nation. Each is a sorry, pitiable statement of what honest leadership and moral character should be.

Billary is also a sorry example of the character of Americans who idolize them and would follow them straight to hell.

Leni

128 posted on 07/25/2005 9:01:58 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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Some stains can never be removed.


129 posted on 07/25/2005 9:24:13 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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It's not true that Clinton-hatred exceeded Bush-hatred, certainly not if intensity is what counts. Some people now have a real hatred of Bush that exceeds what many of us felt for Clinton. It's a mixture of the hostility that liberals have for every Republican President (Nixon, Reagan, Bush's father) with anti-war feeling, the idea that Bush doesn't deserve the office and the distrust of Texanism that was seen in the Johnson years.

Dislike for Clinton was, at least in the beginning, largely personal, but it wasn't hard to explain. Clinton looked very sleazy, smarmy, slick, and slippery. And he was. Add to that his conduct during the '60s and '70s, and the general suspicion of Arkansas's corrupt politics, and that's as good a recipe as any for wariness and active dislike. He did look like he didn't deserve the Presidency, but that turned out to be a pretty good indication that he'd act in ways that would bring the office into disrepute.

Ehrenhalt wants to keep discussion of hostility to Clinton in a personal and subjective channel, and argue that objectively Clinton was a good President. To do so, he avoids specifics. That's a funny way to write a review: to focus on Clinton-hatred and simply assert that it was wrong-headed, mistaken, and vile without going into any of the details of what actually happened in the Nineties.

In fact, it's a pretty wretched review of the book, so far as actual substance is concerned. But you can see the logic. Judge politicians against their worst press, and they're bound to come up looking better than that, even if they weren't much of anything.

A little discussion of what Clinton actually did in office would have been appreciated. Without it, Ehrenhalt comes off as a stereotype liberal who can't get away from emotions and the ingrained idea that the good people are on his side and the bad people are on the other. That's really unfortunate.

I suppose on domestic issues and the economy Clinton did turn out to be better that we'd expected. The Internet boom helped him a lot, but at least he didn't screw it up. Foreign and defense policy, though, are another matter, and anyone who looks at Clinton's record there will be less inclined to consider his presidency a success.

134 posted on 07/25/2005 10:19:10 AM PDT by x
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135 posted on 07/25/2005 11:10:34 AM PDT by al baby (Father of the Beeber)
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Because he was fake. Fake caring. Fake national defense. All appearance and no substance. And of course, the hatred of everyone and law breaking. Oh, and draft dodging! Oh, and adultry. Well, and rape, of course. And assault. Yea, lying, too. Fake tears. Fake marriage. Fake leadership. Fake accomplishments. Oh! And...


139 posted on 07/25/2005 11:28:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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