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To: CWOJackson; Dane; bayourod
It's started dialogs alright...concerning tancredo.

Only among the appeasers. In their minds it's ONLY about Tancredo.

Search their posts if you dare. You'll find only the most superficial mention or discussion of alternatives. Most of their posts are ad hominem attacks on Tacredo, and little else.

Appeasers will do anything to avoid facing up to the truth that underlies Tancredo's statements, and it is this: Islamic terrorism is first and foremost an Islamic problem, not a western problem. Muslims, especially moderate Muslims, have the first, primary duty to fix the problem.

23 posted on 07/24/2005 3:40:43 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: JCEccles

You said it well, JC. The Muslims have created the problem, let them stop the problem.


26 posted on 07/24/2005 3:43:17 PM PDT by kitkat ("We're not going to let anybody frighten us from our great love of freedom." GWB, 7/22/05)
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To: JCEccles
Only among the appeasers. In their minds it's ONLY about Tancredo.

I think they fear the end of RINO domination of the Republican/conservative party more than they fear radical islam.

27 posted on 07/24/2005 3:44:05 PM PDT by raybbr
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To: JCEccles
"You'll find only the most superficial mention or discussion of alternatives."

The alternatives?

Tancredo's is the absurd alternative.

The solution is on the ground in Iraq and Afghanistan and fighting every day.

Beauseant!

28 posted on 07/24/2005 3:44:17 PM PDT by Lancelot Jones (Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.)
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To: JCEccles
"Appeasers will do anything to avoid facing up to the truth that underlies Tancredo's statements..."

His big head. The only thing that under lies tancredo's statements is his self absorbed ego.

30 posted on 07/24/2005 3:44:54 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: JCEccles
Only among the appeasers. In their minds it's ONLY about Tancredo

Uh no the point I am making is that in his(tancredo's) mind it's about him.

See the below passage.

Without question, my(tancredo's) comments have prompted strong reactions from many quarters, but they have also served to start a national dialogue about what options we have to deter al-Qaeda and other would-be Islamic terrorists.

35 posted on 07/24/2005 3:49:07 PM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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To: JCEccles; Leapfrog; backhoe; Stopislamnow; Fred Nerks; canalabamian; Critical Bill
"Islamic terrorism is first and foremost an Islamic problem, not a western problem. Muslims, especially moderate Muslims, have the first, primary duty to fix the problem."

But it IS a "western problem," for the specific reason that islamofascism has been a relentless global movement against the west, against Judeo-Christian civilization for the past 1,400 years. Their quest for a final "Caliphate" which will literally OWN the planet has never ceased.

Historically, they have chosen their times to move, and other times to remain quiescent. Now is one of the "forward" drives. They plan to win. They are attacking the west, western countries and primarily aiming at America. That is why it IS our problem - a western problem.

Islamofascism is as much our problem as Hitler's Nazism was our problem, and Imperial Japan was our problem. Same devil, dressed up in new clothes.

Whether the "moderates" conduct a reform within Islam or not, we can't sit around wondering if they will or not. Our very survival should not (and WILL NOT) depend upon some possible renaissance and reformation of a 1,400 year old blood-and-death cult.

Our survival in WWII didn't depend upon a possible scenario where Hitler's "moderates" would convince him that a "Third Reich lasting 1,000 years" was a bad idea.......or some Japanese "insiders" convincing Hirohito that he wasn't really a god, and that conquering the planet for the glory of "The Empire of the Sun" wasn't "do-able."

It is the same thing now.

We must defeat islamofascism totally, utterly and convincingly. We can't sit back and say, "Well, it's not our problem. The moderates will have to rein in the crazies." By the very nature of Islam, that will never EVER happen. It is therefore up to us to destroy this monster.

Char

188 posted on 07/24/2005 7:14:30 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: JCEccles

It's FR's open border fanatics. But now we can see they have a bigger agenda, and their attacks always seem to be aimed to their right.


357 posted on 07/25/2005 11:39:07 PM PDT by Pelham
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