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ARE we in a World War? You be the judge...
US State Dept; wikipedia; UCal; multiple others ^ | 7/24/05

Posted on 07/24/2005 10:05:56 AM PDT by Wolfstar

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To: JimSEA
I agree about Israel and would also include Southern Thailand.

How about East Timor?

To honor the dead, and to inform the living, we need to include them all and make sure a running total is maintained.

201 posted on 07/24/2005 4:05:17 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Wolfstar

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202 posted on 07/24/2005 4:05:57 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Wolfstar

Great thread Wolfstar.

Thanks for the ping grizzfan.

I've been wondering for months now, when do we say when?

When is enough enough??

Just like today the State Dept issues a warning to Americans about Egypt. Well Duh!!!

It does seem to me we allow the border to continue to be porous, we allow the imams to spew hatred and on and on.

Will we say enough after we are attacked again? The barn door is wide open and the horse is long gone.


203 posted on 07/24/2005 4:13:13 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Never avenge yourselves. but leave the way open for [Gods] wrath. (Islamofanatics excluded))
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To: CHARLITE
THANKS FOR     THE PING

204 posted on 07/24/2005 4:34:36 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Publius6961
Organizing ourselves allows us to chuck all the BS

I don't know what is happening where you live but where I live most of us have acquired carry permits and do in fact carry weapons. An Islamofacist in my neighborhood would have a very short life expectancy.

205 posted on 07/24/2005 4:41:27 PM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Wolfstar

Your list needs to go back to the Seventh Century A.D. which is when this WAR of islam against the entire non-islamic world started.

Our ancestors defeated these animal's ancestors on the field of battle many times in the past, OR THE WEST WOULD NOT EXIST NOW.

The lulls and pauses in this ongoing WAR are only indicative of times when islam was weak, and powerless, unable to harass the broader world outside their own fourth world sh!thole country homes.

So YES, WE, the ENTIRE NON-islamic world, are involved in a World WAR, a WAR forced on us by a cabal of seventh century sub-human animals, who presume to claim murder and hate as a "theology".

"Convert or Die", my Royal Irish A$$!


206 posted on 07/24/2005 4:47:02 PM PDT by porkchops 4 mahound (Hyperbole, don't leave home without it)
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To: cwb

Great addition! Would you recommend some resources so I can arm myself better when I next argue with a lib about Islamo-terror being "America's fault"?


207 posted on 07/24/2005 4:52:31 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Wolfstar

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208 posted on 07/24/2005 4:53:05 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Stu Cohen

With all due respect, I cannot agree with you that the immigration from the south is more dangerous than the Islamics.


209 posted on 07/24/2005 5:07:21 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Squeako

Much of these resources are simply from history books. There is a great piece that can be found on Google called "What Arab Civilization?" from Peter BetBasoo, in response to a Hewlett Packard reps praise of Islam. It goes into some great detail on Islam's aggression and dispells the myth of an Islamic "Golden Age."

A further search directly on "Islamic conquests or imperialism" and the "History of Islam" reveals a lot of information. Even my Comptons Computer Encyclopedia had great info and timelines on Islam. The internets "CIA Factbook" is also loaded with info when you look for specific countries and their origins.


210 posted on 07/24/2005 5:19:10 PM PDT by cwb (Liberal guilt is digging our graves.)
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To: wtc911

BTTT


211 posted on 07/24/2005 5:23:37 PM PDT by Earthdweller (US descendant of French Protestants_"Where there is life, there is hope"..Terri Schindler)
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To: cwb

Thanks a bunch!


212 posted on 07/24/2005 5:24:25 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: Squeako

Squeako, below is one of the articlea I was talking about. After reading this, I actually had several correspondence with the author, who directed me to several other resources. Read this. Peter is open to all questions:

http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm


213 posted on 07/24/2005 5:42:20 PM PDT by cwb (Liberal guilt is digging our graves.)
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To: CHARLITE

Thanks very much! : )


214 posted on 07/24/2005 6:09:17 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Mike DeWine for retirement, John Kasich for Senate)
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To: ladyinred
With all due respect, I cannot agree with you that the immigration from the south is more dangerous than the Islamics.

That's fine, reasonable people can disagree.

However, do you know how much crime has been committed on American soil by illegal Mexicans, and do you know how much has been committied by Islamics?

Just off the top of your head, which do you think is more, and what do you think the ratio is?

Tomorrow, do you think more crimes in the U.S. will be committed by Illegal Mexicans, or Islamics?

And one last question if I may - Do you think much stricter border control would lessen crime by both groups, and if we are in a "war on terror" or "war" on anything, why would we not secure the border?

215 posted on 07/24/2005 6:29:33 PM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: cwb; Cicero; King Prout; Fred Nerks
http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

I commend you, cwb. This is an outstanding, informative letter. I've just sent it out to my formidable email list, with the recommendation that each recipient do the same. The public must have information of this high quality, in order to fully understand what "thieves and brigands" these islamists are now and always have been.

Islam is truly a horrifying cancer on the body of humanity and civilization. It is time that it be thoroughly and completely excised - once and for all!

Thanks so much for sharing this important piece with us.

Char

216 posted on 07/24/2005 6:50:53 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: CHARLITE

You're welcome.


217 posted on 07/24/2005 7:05:00 PM PDT by cwb (Liberal guilt is digging our graves.)
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To: Publius6961
The object of the exercise ough not to be how conveniently short we can make the list of muslim atrocities; rather how complete we can make it. Excluding Israel is a slap in the face to the thousands of her dead; worse, in my opinion, than "focusing" on her alone.

It is beyond frustrating to read this paragraph. Did you read the piece? If so, what part of "representative list" do you not understand? If so, how did you miss the following:

February 21, 1970
September 6-7, 1970
May 30, 1972
May 15, 1974
July 3-4, 1976
December 27, 1985

If you have come across me at all on FR over these past several years, you would know that I make every effort to be respectful of the opinions of others. In that spirit, I have tried to be patient, understanding, and ultra explanatory to you and the few others who seem to feel that Israel has somehow been slighted. But your absolute refusal -- yes, refusal, not inability -- to acknowledge the purpose of what I posted disgusts me.

You do Israel's cause no benefit. Rather, you sustain every fool and anti-Semite out there who wants to lay the blame for all terrorism at the feet of the Jewish people. As far as I'm concerned, you are a mirror image of the likes of Pat Buchanan; opposite sides of the same obtuse coin.

218 posted on 07/24/2005 9:38:06 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Western Leftists have made common cause with the Islamofreaks.)
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To: WestCoastGal
I've been wondering for months now, when do we say when?

I wonder that myself, WCG. Like most average folks on our side of the political aisle, I want much stronger control over our ports and borders, as well as our immigration and visa policies. I'm sick of political correctness. I wish we had hundreds of thousands of Americans demonstrating against it all. But we don't, and until the politicians feel the heat, nothing will change.

219 posted on 07/24/2005 9:46:40 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Western Leftists have made common cause with the Islamofreaks.)
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To: Wolfstar

Thanks for this great post!


220 posted on 07/24/2005 10:14:50 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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