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To: KC_for_Freedom
The term, "morally straight" only means staying on the "straight and narrow". And has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Sure it does. Being homosexual isn't disqualifying, but living as an active homosexual is another matter. It's the doing that does it. And the problem is that being an active homosexual man carries with it the 20-30% likelihood that one is disposed to cross the line with youth -- the clinical term is "ephebophilia," but it's just the ancient gay slavering over youth and beauty. I've got a coffee-table book someone gave me on Greek civilization, and it's shot through with editorializing in favor of gay values. Every homosexual episode in Greek mythology is represented in that book somewhere. The editor was gay, and he tarted up the book as a big, fat message to educated breeders.

If a homosexual individual were to join the scouts, and keep his sexuality to himself, he would be more than welcome in the scouts. (This is obviously true because of the occasional Scout who comes out of the closet and admits that he went through the scout program.)

Gay campaign orgs are always surfacing these guys. Did you ever wonder why they didn't surface any of them who are doing state time for statutory rape and indecency convictions?

A truly closeted, non-active gay is hard to imagine. Surely such people exist, and I don't think they'd hit any screens; but if someone is out and gay, even if he (at the moment) is celibate, that's a problem. If he's active but closeted, that's still a problem. The BSA's problem is, if they let 1000 of these guys in nationwide, they're going to have 250-300 incidents that they otherwise wouldn't have.

The model for what happens when gay and bisexual men get access to a youth organization is the Nazi SA, the Brown Shirts. Their command staff was 100% gay or bi, and the commander, Ernst Roehm, was an aggressive and brutal predator. Those guys went through the Hitler Youth like the Fire of Rome. They were so bad, that they impaired Hitler's plans to take control of the Wehrmacht: the general staff of the Wehrmacht wasn't having any of Ernst Roehm and his rapists. So Hitler purged the SA, sending the SS to kill the top staffers in the notorious "night of the long knives". That episode doesn't get a lot of ink, but a couple of books have been written in the last 10 years. You can probably find them on Amazon or B&N, if they're not too PC. Try Pink Swastika.

77 posted on 07/24/2005 2:40:13 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Right, I agree with your post. No homosexual leadership, every in the scouts. If truely closseted, they could get in, but it would not be a valuable role model, and could lead to molestation incidents. As far as morally straight, I agree with this as well, I was commenting on the common term "straight" as in gay or straight. The scouts did not use this term in their oath because of the modern usage meaning a heterosexual. And yes, the homosexual lifestyle is not on the "straight and narrow", in fact it is dangerous and when cohersion is used it is evil.

Thanks for the expansionary post, I did not know about the homosexuality in the Nazis, but it fits the pattern of homosexuals becoming leaders and authority figures in youth organizations, something we were late in working to prevent.


82 posted on 07/24/2005 3:26:58 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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