[wardaddy]

That mindset has sure made the prices higher for folks like me who hire GCs to build projects and insist on legal all the way....if you have a lot of brick or block or landscaping, you can count on 25-50% higher than if you give the bid to some pendejo mondan chupando sub contractor.

Totally legit subs in those areas are in great demand by developers with ethics.

[Smarti Pants]

You know what? I've been known to pay more money for a better product. My mother taught me from a young age that you aren't saving any money if you buy the cheaper product and you end up throwing it away.

I think it's great that people like you insist on legals as opposed to the illegals. Trouble is, when the illegals are capable of producing fake IDs, fake social security cards, etc., we're all in trouble. Take a look at the schools here & the closed emergency rooms. We just can't absorb the extra costs involved with them.