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Blasts kill 83 in Egypt (Europe struggles to blame Iraq/Bush/Blair for this one)
Reuters UK ^ | Jul 23, 2005 | Tom Perry

Posted on 07/23/2005 4:09:43 AM PDT by rabair

Blasts kill 83 in Egyptian Red Sea resort Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:37 AM BST

By Tom Perry

SHARM EL-SHEIKH, Egypt (Reuters) - At least 83 people were killed and 200 injured when car bombs ripped through markets and hotels in the Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh on Saturday in the worst attack in Egypt since 1981.

Shaken European tourists spoke of mass panic and hysteria as people fled the carnage in the early hours, with bodies strewn across the roads, people screaming and sirens wailing.

The regional governor said two car bombs and possibly a suitcase bomb had rocked the resort, popular with divers and European holidaymakers.

One blast tore the front off the Ghazala Gardens Hotel in Naama Bay, the site of most of the resort's luxury hotels. People were feared trapped in the rubble of the lobby.

A car broke into the hotel compound and exploded in front of the building, South Sinai Governor Mustafa Afifi said.

A senior security source in Sharm el-Sheikh said 83 people were killed and 23 people were in critical condition, from among 35 casualties taken to Cairo for treatment.

Most of the victims were Egyptians but the Tourism Minsirty spokeswoman said Seven non-Egyptians were dead, including a Czech and an Italian, and 20 were injured.

The injured foreigners were nine Italians, five Saudis, three Britons, a Russian, a Ukrainian and an Israeli Arab, spokesman Hala el-Khatib told reporters. But the British Foreign Office in London said that eight Britons were injured.

A group claiming links to the al Qaeda organisation said it carried out the bombings in retaliation for "crimes committed against Muslims", according to an Internet statement.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bombing; deathtoll; egypt; globaljihad; islam; justifyingterrorism; muslims; sharmelsheikh; terrorism; terrorist
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To: rabair
I'm sure I'm going to get some people worked up here but...

First, those who are saying things like we "left Afghanistan when we were about to get Bin Laden" are ridiculous and there is no evidence that we had a better chance of getting him and that we screwed it up by moving anyone. Unless you're talking about the multiple opportunities Clinton had, when they had Bin Laden pinpointed and offered up on a silver platter and Clinton said no. I'm not blaming Clinton for terrorism, I blame Islam (not radical Islam, just Islam) for that, but I do think that should be noted.

Secondly, I think the world agreed that Saddam had WMDs... We know he had and used them and had unaccounted for stockpiles, and to think they were gone was to think that Saddam was the good guy who got rid of them on his own. That's ridiculous. The thing that sucks is I think these were smuggled to/through Syria and possibly with the help of Russia, and no one will admit they were there until they're used to kill thousands of Americans at home. And then it won't be "Bush was right, and he should have actually just made a parking lot out of many of these countries" it will be libs screaming "Why didn't Bush secure these."

The other thing is the strategic location of Iraq... With Afghanistan (and stability) it can be used to help put the squeeze on Iran.

Whatever, I'm kind of bored with this for now.. I just get sick of the "we forgot about Bin Laden to go to Iraq".
81 posted on 07/23/2005 7:21:03 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of peace strikes again.... bringing the World "Peace Filled Car Bombs")
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To: rabair
Blair's fault, Bush's fault, war in Iraq's fault, it's all a bunch of crap. A lot of Europe has taken the approach that nothing will happen to them if they cower to terrorism. They're wrong, they encourage more when they do that.

At this point, they're just trying to be the last ones eaten by the crocodile. You have to step up and kill the crocodile, Euro-trash!!

82 posted on 07/23/2005 7:22:25 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("A litany of complaints is not a plan." -- G.W. Bush, regarding Sen. Kerry's lack of vision)
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To: rabair
During the first President Bush's administration, islamic fundamentalists blew up a hotel in Argentina with numerous deaths.

By the standards of the euroweenies, that was all about Afghanistan and Iraq too.

83 posted on 07/23/2005 7:26:09 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Allegra

I feel sorry for him and for his loved ones, but you just...don't...do....that.

####

Like Nick Berg, he assumed he was 'acceptable.'


84 posted on 07/23/2005 7:26:13 AM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: DM1

Guess the assassination of Sadat was all about Bush's policies towards Afghanistan and Iraq too.


85 posted on 07/23/2005 7:27:40 AM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: rabair

This bombing obviously has nothing to do with Iraq and everything to do with the Muslim jihad on western culture. This resort looks to be as western style as anything in Egypt is apt to be. I don't know because I've never been there, but swimming pools and women in bathing suits doesn't seem like it would fit into the radical Muslim culture.


86 posted on 07/23/2005 7:27:42 AM PDT by Eva
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To: popdonnelly
"I'm sick and tired of all the stupid whining that, "It's all because of the Iraq war" "

Ditto. This idea is exactly what the Terrorist mean to propagate; they intend to wear down our resolve, and sadly in some quarters they are succeeding, but thankfully NOT where it counts most. GWB and Blair are as adamant as ever. The Terrorists are stepping things up, this clearly is a sign they are getting desperate, they want us to start appeasing them, which is exactly the opposite of what we need to do.
87 posted on 07/23/2005 7:31:19 AM PDT by SeaBiscuit (God Bless all who defend America and Friends, the rest can go to hell.)
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To: rabair

Unless, you are either in Al Qaeda, or could pass for Bin Laden, why in God's name would you be vacationing in the Lion's Den.


88 posted on 07/23/2005 7:33:34 AM PDT by NavVet (“Benedict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: rabair

BTTT!


89 posted on 07/23/2005 7:35:05 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: MizSterious
to even the most dense of Freepers that they were on the attack long before we ever entered Iraq--even before the first Gulf war.

Talk about dense!

These barbarians are attacking around the world for ONE reason ... they believe they are the vanguard of a Muslim fundamentalist revolution that will purge their neighborhoods of western infidels and the influences therof.

If I could spend ten minutes with you and a shillelagh I think I could get it through your thick head.

My opposition to Bush's (nutty neocon) move from the Afghan/Paki border to Baghdad is and has been that the terrorists interpreted this move as:
1) Weakness on our part (a willingness to run from the East's dashing young madman/hero to pursue a toothless old tiger in an impoverished country).
2) A clear signal that we were intent on making war on all Muslims, not just terrorists. A powerful message that they have of course carried to the masses.

From our own standpoint it has accomplished nothing positive, not even the neocon goals.

90 posted on 07/23/2005 7:35:29 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

Good point.


91 posted on 07/23/2005 7:35:33 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: popdonnelly
popdonnelly said: Let's get on with it, and forget about the inane whining of leftists. These people are contributing nothing to even their own defense, let alone that of the rest of us.

I would concur with that... partially. I agree we need to get on with it and ignore the left... But they've already rendered this war virtually unwinable. They control the media which I argue is more powerful than any arm of the government these days. (I think readers here [and Dan Rather] are educated enough that I need not explain cause and effect of "portray events in one way to swing votes" [or in Rather's case, fake events"] I think we would all agree, without the liberal media there wouldn't be many Dims left in office today.

So anyway, yes popdonnelly, you're right these leftists are a bunch of idiots who don't really deserve our time... But I think we let it go for a period of time and we'll see them steal the country right out from under our feet. Bush doesn't ever defend himself, probably because he doesn't want to sink to that level but I think that's the wrong me.. I like to see him pissed and confrontational... But that won't happen because then he'll only get it worse from the media. Anyway, gotta get away for a bit...
92 posted on 07/23/2005 7:36:20 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of peace strikes again.... bringing the World "Peace Filled Car Bombs")
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; BunnySlippers
BunnySlippers ~ I believe the first one I can remember was the assassination of Bobby Kennedy.

Sir Francis Dashwood ~ His brother doesn't seem to remember...

His brother doesn't seem to remember much of anything.

93 posted on 07/23/2005 7:41:09 AM PDT by null and void (Q: What did the terrorist say to the Bobby? A: Gimme five!)
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To: sarasota

Osama, in addition to being a man who assassinated his mentor, in addition to claiming to revere the man he assassinated, in addition to selling out his own organization to suck up to Zawahiri's Egyptians, is a fraud, a liar, a hypocrite many times over, an apostate, and a coward.

The only battle he's ever been in, to the best of my knowlege, was when he and about 50 Arab mujas were surrounded at a place named Jaji, by a battalion of Soviets who already knew they were going home, starved and sniped for five days, and then bolted and ran for the Pak border.

On arriving in Miram Shah, Bin Laden began to produce videotapes and brochures acclaiming his "great victory" to all who would listen, a propaganda campaign that eventually escalated to the point where Osama himself now believes he personally defeated and caused the fall of the Soviet Union.

Whenever he fires the AK-47 rifle he supposedly liberated from a Soviet he supposedly killed, he closes his eyes and flinches, holding the weapon so far away from his delicate face he can't even line up the sights on a target. This is evident in every video he distributes which supposedly depict the great Bin Laden as a "warrior".

Though never a friend, his anti-US rhetoric campaign didn't begin with the establishment of Israel, the fall of the Shah, or even when the Saudi government laughed at the idea of Bin Laden's "army" defending Arabia from Saddam Hussein and liberating Kuwait, preferring the US Army instead.

Bin Laden's hatred of the US didn't begin until the day we levered him out of Sudan, in 1996, and his first warning to us wasn't issued until he arrived back in Jalalabad, Afghanistan.

The day we put five in his scraggley bearded, purple lipped head, I intend to celebrate with at least a full bottle of Kentucky's finest.

My best guess is that when he gets it, he will scream like a girl and offer to tell us anything we care to know in order to try and save himself. He won't die in clean robes either.

The only people I've ever heard actually ask "Why do they hate us" is the media, who simply uses that as an excuse to tell us what a bunch of jerks we are, over and over, ad nauseum, at every opportunity they get, and at many opportunities they connive to manufacture themselves.


94 posted on 07/23/2005 7:42:40 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: iconoclast
No, make that from your standpoint. Leave mine out of your delusions.
95 posted on 07/23/2005 7:43:17 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: jeffers
Ayman hates the Egyptian government about as much as Osama hates the Saudi royal family, hence yesterday's attack in Egypt.
B.b.b.but I thought all the dirty Mooselimbs were in cahoots! [/sarc]

Good post. It's sometimes forgotten that Al Qaeda hates non-fanatical Islamic governments nearly as much as they hate the US and Israel.

-Eric

96 posted on 07/23/2005 7:45:18 AM PDT by E Rocc (Anyone who thinks Bush-bashing is banned on FR has never read a Middle East thread >:))
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To: tkathy
The escalation may just be due to the rise of cell phone technology and internet communication rather than Bush/Blair/Israel.

Terrorism by radical Islamists has been rising exponentially since the 1970's. At the same time, terrorism from other non-Islamist groups has been on the decline. The kind of multi-target attachs we see now is not new, but you're right -- new technology is making it easier for terrorists to plan and coordinate such attacks.

97 posted on 07/23/2005 7:45:52 AM PDT by Wolfstar (The Dim Party and its fellow leftist travelers want nothing less than the fall of the United States.)
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To: popdonnelly

I agree also. I only hope that the rest of the world is FINALLY GOING TO SEE THESE NUTS FOR WHAT THEY ARE. On Fox this morning, they were giving the ACLU crap, saying that if it happened here, the ACLU would have been seeing who could break an ankle first getting line to gripe in front of a camera and file a lawsuit. The time for PC is over. The rest of the world is hopefully going to finally get the message.


98 posted on 07/23/2005 7:46:14 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: jeffers

I'd like to see your detailed comments in the MSM. Ever send emails like this to Fox et. al? I'd love to join you in toasting to OBL's demise.


99 posted on 07/23/2005 7:46:52 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: MizSterious
If you think Free Republic is such a dark, ignorant place (comapred to you, no doubt), then why are you here?

Where should I try to take light and reason? DU?

The truth (and only the truth) will make you free.

100 posted on 07/23/2005 7:50:38 AM PDT by iconoclast ( "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive")
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