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'The main thing we feel is fear, 24/7'
Guardian ^ | 07/23/05 | Patrick Barkham

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:09:44 PM PDT by Pikamax

'The main thing we feel is fear, 24/7' Threats and a sense of danger

Patrick Barkham Saturday July 23, 2005

Guardian

The first bomb scare at the east London mosque since the suicide bombs in London was yesterday shrugged off by staff. But on Whitechapel Road outside, ordinary Muslims spoke of a pervasive sense of fear and how they felt they were being watched all the time. "As a community, the main thing we feel is fear 24/7," said a 24-year-old Muslim woman dressed in a hijab and jilbab.

At 10.25am a receptionist at the mosque received an anonymous telephone call from a man with an English accent.

"The person on the phone said 'is that the east London mosque?' and the receptionist said yes and the caller said 'There's a bomb in your building, you have half an hour to evacuate'," said Dilowar Khan, director of the mosque. "It was a very calm phone call. It wasn't abusive."

As the alarm bell rang, 200 people, including 160 children from the three schools based in the mosque and Muslim centre next door, quickly left the building.

Mosque leaders praised the police, who they said arrived within five minutes. No device was found and the building was reopened an hour later, in time for Friday prayers.

According to Mr Khan, the threat was taken seriously because they had received 16 telephone calls in the last two weeks, three of which made reference to a bomb threat to coincide with Friday prayers.

Just as many Londoners are trying to avoid the tube because of fears of more suicide bombs, so worried Muslims are warning each other to stay out of central London, sometimes for different reasons.

Windows at the Mile End mosque, near the Whitechapel Road mosque, were smashed shortly after the first bombs two weeks ago.

"After September 11 we felt the same, but after a while it did settle down," said Fatemah al Katib, 23, a student originally from Lebanon.

"We feel different when we walk the streets now. When you sit down on a train, people move away."

"Muslim sisters feel they are in danger and suspected," said the 24-year-old woman, who preferred to remain anonymous.

"Everybody is worried about bombs. Everybody is worried about everything, but most of all we are worried about how every day people are being threatened. We wake up and feel insecure. What is going to happen next?"

News of the shooting of a man of Asian appearance on the tube spread as local people milled around outside the mosque. For some Muslims, it confirmed their fears about the police response to the attack.

"Does that give the police any reason to go and shoot people in public?" said the young woman. "It's just ridiculous. It's not going to help - it's just going to trigger even more trouble."

But many Muslims outside the mosque praised the police and said they accepted that being stopped and searched was the cost of terrorism.

"Because of a harmful minority, the majority have to pay," said Nakib Islam, a student, as police sirens wailed on Whitechapel Road. "If that means giving up five minutes of my time to be searched, so be it."

Mr Islam, who has just finished his A-levels, said he was concerned that women and the elderly would feel the wrath of an anti-Muslim backlash. "What worries me is that all our Muslim sisters, especially the elderly, will be more prone to be attacked. They will see our sisters wearing the hijabs and veils and go up to them and rip them off."

Mohammed Alam, 25, a youth worker with Muslims, said: "We are a bit concerned that Muslim women may be stopped by the police and asked to remove their veils. But the police have been very, very helpful and very good."

Less helpful, he said, had been the prime minister's rhetoric since the bombings.

"Young people condemn the terrorist acts, but at the same time they are a bit annoyed by Tony Blair associating the attack with an ideological clash. This phrase, this 'clash of civilisations' is very irresponsible."

He added: "The government is trying to dissociate the terrorist attacks with any of its actions around the world. Still Tony Blair refuses to listen. Not linking the attacks with Iraq is to hide the truth."

On his way to Friday prayers, Ruhul Tarasfder also praised the police but criticised the government's "evil ideology" rhetoric.

"It's not helpful to us that George Bush used the word 'crusade' and Blair uses 'ideology'. These people should be described as terrorists. They are nothing to do with Islam."


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To: Pikamax
They are nothing to do with Islam."

This is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a long time.

These people are raised by islam. They're taught by islam. They're supported by islam. They're armed by islam. They're equipped by islam. They're defended by islam. They're rewarded by islam with 72 virgins and 28 little boys.

What more needs to be said?

41 posted on 07/23/2005 12:08:04 AM PDT by America's Resolve (Liberal Democrats are liars, cheats and thieves with no morals, scruples, ethics or honor!)
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To: Pikamax; All
To put it very bluntly--

I have long ceased having a care about what these creatures think, or feel, or fear, or even care about anymore:

Islam, The Alleged Religion of Peace® ( TARP™ )? Click this picture:

No, I am not exaggerating.
I am not joking-
-this is life versus death, freedom versus slavery that we are talking about.
Click the picture, go to the "last," and read backwards.
If you are not informed about this stuff, you will be made sick. If you are informed, you will be made mad, all over again.


...and then, there's this little matter still on the books, waiting to be accounted for:

Where It's 9-11 All the Time...

Click the picture...

"Where it's nine-eleven all the time
and no Sun sets, and no clocks chime
where no voice speaks and no bird trills
the Moon hangs frozen o'er the hills
The winds are still, they seem to say,
Reflect, remember, stop to pray..."


"Imam's fiery message speaks to radical British Muslims"

I wrote this some time ago, and while I wish I could change what is said, I cannot, nor will I, retract a single word of it:


From my file, "Fire and Blood and Iron:"


The entire West ( dare I say "the civilized World?" ) is locked in a fight to the death with militant Islam.

There will be no second-place winner, no "third way" solution-- it is March or Die time, folks.

It is Us versus an eighth-century "culture" of plunder & pillage, forced religious "conversions," and the mistreatment of women.

The sooner we face up to this fact realistically and quit dancing around PC talking-point nonsense about diversity and tolerance, the better off we'll all be.

We did not pick this fight- which really has roots in Jimmy Carter's appeasement in 1979 of militants- but we had damned well better see it for what it is, and be prepared to face it and finish it.

I'll put it in raw, personal terms-- I don't want Sharia law visited upon my women, and I don't want a goat-roper "culture" infesting my land.

I don't want their vile, nasty, loathsome weapons of mass destruction loosed upon my fair country, either.

They picked the fight, and now it is up to us to finish it- balls to the wall, hammer and anvil, fire and blood and iron... freedom is never, ever free, and the coin you pay it in is men's lives and tears and blood.

What we saw during Gulf War I was our military doctrine ( high tech ) versus Soviet doctrine ( throw a lot of low tech iron at the problem )-- and we all know how that turned out.

What we saw in the 3-Week War is Information-Tech,
( What some are calling it Hyperwarfare... )
or 21st Century warfare versus 20th Century...

What I would suggest, and call your attention to, is the fact that we, and Israel, are capable of waging 21st Century warfare, and the entire Arab world is not.

Proven fact, by recent events.

One more thing- this will be a war where we are all called to be warriors- so I very strongly suggest to you that the time has come to get hard, and stay hard... it really is the time for Fire and Blood and Iron...

42 posted on 07/23/2005 1:06:32 AM PDT by backhoe (Sure, It's a Religion of Peace- and they'll kill you to prove it...)
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