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NYers to NYPD: 'I Do Not Consent to Being Searched'
The Village Voice ^ | July 21st, 200 | by Chisun Lee

Posted on 07/22/2005 11:06:07 AM PDT by BigFinn


Spend $16.99 so you can wear this to your grave

Reacting to the NYPD's announcement Thursday afternoon that police would randomly—but routinely—search the bags of commuters, one concerned New Yorker quickly created a way for civil libertarians to make their views black-and-white. In a few outraged moments, local immigrant rights activist Tony Lu designed t-shirts bearing the text, "i do not consent to being searched." The minimalist protest-wear can be purchased here, in various styles and sizes. (Lu will not get a cut. The shirts' manufacture, sale, and shipment, will be handled by the online retailer. Lu encourages budget-conscious New Yorkers to make their own and wear them everywhere.)

Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly had announced the legally obvious—that New Yorkers are free to decline a search and "turn around and leave." But Lu, who is a lawyer at Urban Justice Center, warned that even well-intentioned cops could interpret people's natural nervousness or anger as "reasonable suspicion." The possibility of unjustified interrogation and even arrest is real, Lu said.

Although police promised they would not engage in racial profiling, Lu said that, as with all street-level policing, people of color and poor immigrants would be particularly vulnerable, especially if encounters lead to arrests.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baaaaa; libertarianfools; nonprofiling; nothintohidehere; nyc; nypd; sheeple; stupidliberals; tshirt; villagevoiceisarag; wot
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To: bird4four4

Yeah, I think the potential of a search along with more cops on the platforms, etc. will cause them to think twice.


141 posted on 07/22/2005 11:47:32 AM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: bannedfromdu

And think of how much money they'll save. Wow!


142 posted on 07/22/2005 11:47:56 AM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: BigFinn
I can just imagine the belly moaning that would go on today if the same sacrifices ask of civilians during WWII were ask today. People cannot seem to decipher the difference between fighting for the same cause during war and a attack on civil liberties during peace time.
143 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:05 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: All
To the people who are complaining about the searches, just wait for a bomb to go off on a NY subway, you will be the first to complain about nothing was done to stop it.

I thought we were a free society? Turning marxist is far worse.

144 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Cloth or link. Happiness is a perfect trunion.)
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To: Sabramerican

Oh, for crying out loud....
Use your head. What most basic of Constitutional rights is being trod upon when a policeman asks to look in my briefcase? It happens at stadiums, it happens at courthouses, it happens in airports.
Adults need to stop being such whiney babies. We're setting a bad example for the children.


145 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:06 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: superiorslots
Sometimes I think I have awoken in a parralell universe when conservaties today are in bed with the communist in so many areas.

I have found that 90% of people who call themselves "conservatives" are no such thing.

Liberals on the other hand pretty accurately describe themselves. I'm not sure why that is.

146 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:24 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: Age of Reason
Then terrorists would stop hating our freedom because we wouldn't have any.

It's got nothing to do with that.

The terrorists hate us because we're not jihadists.

147 posted on 07/22/2005 11:48:49 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: superiorslots
When is it being a good conservative to start professing it's better we lose our privacy and rights at breakneck spead.

It's for the children, donchano.

148 posted on 07/22/2005 11:49:23 AM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: RedRover

What do you mean? The only way to back it up at this point in time is to be a test case that goes to the USSC. And a majority-strict-contructionist USSC at that.

If you think random searches are reasonable, please explain the reasoning.

Random searches catching bombers is more like a room of chimpanzees typing the complete works of Shakespeare, than real LE work. They might get a word or two right here and there, but that's about it. Likewise, random searches might catch a bomber here and there, but, with a huge emphasis on "might", that's about it.


149 posted on 07/22/2005 11:49:26 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: gdani

Take your "sheeple" crap to the DU.


150 posted on 07/22/2005 11:49:49 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: RedRover

Quote: PS. Though I might feel differently if I wore a fanny pack.



Any male that wears a fanny pack needs to be jailed or deported. How can I say it best: It looks so damn gay.


151 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:00 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: BigFinn

"i do not consent to being searched."


buy a bike...


152 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:03 AM PDT by Hand em their arse
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To: xsrdx
what makes us safer is letting everybody in NYC carry a loaded 45.

I agree with this. Now how do we get that into practice and what can do we do in the meantime?

153 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:03 AM PDT by noexcuses
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To: RedRover
What most basic of Constitutional rights is being trod upon when a policeman asks to look in my briefcase?

Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

154 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:07 AM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Truth has become so rare and precious she is always attended to by a bodyguard of lies.)
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To: durasell

Yeah, I get it. Terrorists blow stuff up, citizens give up their privacy for illusionary safety, and America slips into an Orwellian paradise willingly. Your privacy now means nothing to the state. Move along before we are forced to question you, good citizen.


155 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:08 AM PDT by stacytec
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To: ArrogantBustard; Age of Reason; flashbunny; Oberon; Hemingway's Ghost; AdamSelene235; Sonny M; ...

Let me know when you ladies enlist and the least of your worries will be what's in your hanbags! LMAO


156 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:14 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: noexcuses
and the box cutters got planted by flight service people.

Better start screening those transit workers, too.

157 posted on 07/22/2005 11:50:31 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: George Smiley
If riding the subway was a right then you wouldn't have to pay a fare to exercise it-- as that would be "prior restraint".

Not if the fare were uniform.

If the police want for you to "assume the position", they can always come up with a plausible reason for you to do so.

Yes, but that doesn't make it right. Have you given up?

And in a situation where they are armed and several and you are disarmed and solo, discretion ought to dictate that you adopt compliant behavior.

Yes, I am well aware that we are supposed to fear our government and the people cosncipted to enforce it's wishes. It still doesn't make it right.

Being smartass to police officers does not yield positive results, even in New York.

Nobody should be above the law or consitution. Armed or not.

158 posted on 07/22/2005 11:51:18 AM PDT by Stu Cohen (Press '1' for English)
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To: kellynla
Let me know when you ladies enlist and the least of your worries will be what's in your hanbags! LMAO

Former USN aviator right here, tough guy.

159 posted on 07/22/2005 11:51:21 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Stu Cohen

Post after post...from conservatives. Unbelievable, no?

What if they search you and find from a joint to illegally downloaded MP3's?

If Conservative Republicans so readily are willing to give up the most cherished of Rights, we are doomed.

And most don't even get it. Maybe the Liberals are right in believing that if you scratch a Conservative you find an Authoritarian.


160 posted on 07/22/2005 11:51:27 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Sarcasm/Some here don't get it unless you spell it out)
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