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How Costco Became the Anti-Wal-Mart
The New York Times ^ | July 17, 2005 | STEVEN GREENHOUSE

Posted on 07/22/2005 7:17:48 AM PDT by TaxRelief

... Some Wall Street analysts assert that CEO Jim Sinegal is overly generous not only to Costco's customers but to its workers as well.

Costco's average pay, for example, is $17 an hour, 42 percent higher than its fiercest rival, Sam's Club. And Costco's health plan makes those at many other retailers look Scroogish. One analyst, Bill Dreher of Deutsche Bank, complained last year that at Costco "it's better to be an employee or a customer than a shareholder."

Mr. Sinegal begs to differ. ...Good wages and benefits are why Costco has extremely low rates of turnover and theft by employees, he said. And Costco's customers, who are more affluent than other warehouse store shoppers, stay loyal because they like that low prices do not come at the workers' expense. "This is not altruistic," he said. "This is good business."

...Costco's stock price has risen more than 10 percent in the last 12 months, while Wal-Mart's has slipped 5 percent. Costco shares sell for almost 23 times expected earnings; at Wal-Mart the multiple is about 19. Mr. Dreher said Costco's share price was so high because so many people love the company. "It's a cult stock," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bjs; costco; costorules; jimsinegal; retail; samsmart; sinegal; walmart; walmartsucks; warehousestores
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To: badbass

Ok, you are not sick! :-)


181 posted on 07/26/2005 4:36:00 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: WildTurkey
Ok, you are not sick! :-)

Thanks, I feel better already! ;-).

182 posted on 07/27/2005 7:47:31 AM PDT by badbass
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To: TaxRelief; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; Jhoffa_; FITZ; arete; FreedomPoster; Red Jones; ...
[...] Mr. Sinegal, whose father was a coal miner and steelworker, gave a simple explanation. "On Wall Street, they're in the business of making money between now and next Thursday," he said. "I don't say that with any bitterness, but we can't take that view. We want to build a company that will still be here 50 and 60 years from now."
[...]
Despite Costco's impressive record, Mr. Sinegal's salary is just $350,000, although he also received a $200,000 bonus last year.[...]

The whole article is available at How Costco Became the Anti-Wal-Mart

183 posted on 09/12/2005 6:36:09 AM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: NotSoFreeStater
Heinz does make the best ketchup. Hunts is terrible.

Are we talking about Teresa Heinz Kerry Ketchup? Talk about funding communists!

184 posted on 09/12/2005 6:53:26 AM PDT by jackbenimble (Import the third world, become the third world)
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To: TaxRelief
Costco shares sell for almost 23 times expected earnings; at Wal-Mart the multiple is about 19. Mr. Dreher said Costco's share price was so high because so many people love the company. "It's a cult stock," he said.

Actually, I'd say this statement tells one of three stories: 1) Costco stock is overpriced; 2) Wal-Mart stock is underpriced; or 3) Costco simply has more growth potential because Wal-Mart already dominates the retail market in many geographic areas.

185 posted on 09/12/2005 7:06:06 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: EagleUSA

"Yes, COSTCO should change its name to COMMIE-CO.... "

If delivering goods at a reasonable price, while paying workers a decent wage is commie, call me a commie.


186 posted on 09/12/2005 7:07:22 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: old and tired

The Costco closest to us has terrible produce and is dirty and smelly. Shopping there is like shopping at a Wal-Mart in a bad area of New Orleans. We maintained our membership there for two years, hoping they would build closer to us. They haven't. Probably because there is a new Sam's Club and a BJs already in the area. Then I learned about Costco's management's leanings toward RATS. We quit shopping at Costco. The Sams Club here has better produce. The BJs has very expensive produce, and it's not the best quality. We go to Sams for produce and other items. We go to BJs because they have a bigger variety of meats.


187 posted on 09/12/2005 7:13:31 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Willie Green
Let me fix it, make the FR version:

There is one rule for the industrialist and that is: Make the best quality of goods possible at the lowest cost possible, paying the highest lowest wages possible.

There, that's more FR friendly.
188 posted on 09/12/2005 7:13:57 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: nmh

"What I also like about Walmart is they have the audacity to sell Christian books - Bibles etc.! "

Do they sell dictionaries? If they do, would you look up "allot" for me? It's not in mine.


189 posted on 09/12/2005 7:35:18 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: T. Jefferson
1. You make 10 cents a piece selling 10,000 widgets to a thousand different vendors.

2. You make 2 cents a piece selling 5 million widgets to Wal Mart.

If I have to make substantial investments that increase overhead to supply Walmart, and that makes me dependant on Walmart's business to survive, then it may not be such a good deal. In a sense, Walmart now owns my business and is in a position to dictate terms to me.

190 posted on 09/12/2005 7:41:40 AM PDT by lucysmom
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To: TaxRelief; Willie Green

"The key word is possible. ...
This balloon will explode, but not without a lot of damage to the pocket books of ignorant investors and stupid banks."

Interesting. Do you know Costco's business intimately? Do you know for a fact that Costco is exceeding the highest possible wage for workers? You have their books? You know all of this?

Or... do you just assume that workers need to be paid the bare minimum? Is it possible that you feel anyone who is not a business owner doesn't deserve a decent wage?


191 posted on 09/12/2005 7:48:20 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: wrathof59
You have the dumbest post on this thread, you have been watching too much MSNBC.

Ditto to that!

192 posted on 09/12/2005 7:51:46 AM PDT by saminfl
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To: rwfromkansas; Willie Green

"Folks, Willie Green hates Wal-Mart and loves Costco.

That should be your clue that Wal-Mart is better."

Wow, talk about flawed logic. Someone talked about the "dumbest post on the thread". I nominate yours.


193 posted on 09/12/2005 7:54:05 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: brownsfan
"What I also like about Walmart is they have the audacity to sell Christian books - Bibles etc.! "

Do they sell dictionaries? If they do, would you look up "allot" for me? It's not in mine.

Hmmmm the Fr spell checker allows it. Better make a formal complaint to FR.

Geesh, of all the ridiculous things to be concerned about ... spelling ... the truth is you don't like what I said, so what does the mindless do? Pick on something idiotic - like spelling.

LOL!!!
194 posted on 09/12/2005 8:11:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: brownsfan
"What I also like about Walmart is they have the audacity to sell Christian books - Bibles etc.! "

You: Do they sell dictionaries? If they do, would you look up "allot" for me? It's not in mine.

Me: Just in case my reply wasn't crystal clear, that is the proper spelling of "allot".

Perhaps you need to pedal over to Walmart and get one of those dictionaries. There should be a big selection right now since kids often buy them when going back to school.
195 posted on 09/12/2005 8:16:54 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: WildTurkey; badbass

"I think it is sick for someone who claims to be a conservative to go around and say Republicans have not heart."

I count that as a nerve hit.
It wasn't said that all republicans have no heart.
But, when it comes to employee relations, republican business owners do have a tendancy to be less than caring. So, I guess I'm sick too?


196 posted on 09/12/2005 8:17:10 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: nmh

"Geesh, of all the ridiculous things to be concerned about ... spelling ... the truth is you don't like what I said, so what does the mindless do? Pick on something idiotic - like spelling."

Actually, I didn't have a problem with what you said. And the fact that I actually care about grammar and spelling makes me mindless?

And your incorrect usage of a non word makes you... ?


197 posted on 09/12/2005 8:23:03 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Goldsborough
My local Costco is clean, the two Wal-Marts define dirty. AND SMELLY !
198 posted on 09/12/2005 8:28:05 AM PDT by SweetCaroline (Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted!!)
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To: nmh

"Perhaps you need to pedal over to Walmart and get one of those dictionaries. There should be a big selection right now since kids often buy them when going back to school."

You seem to be very angry. Interesting how people get so wound up over things. I imagine you're given to road rage too.

Yes, I was mistaken, but so were you. You said "allot", and in that context, you were trying to say "a lot". To make it "crystal clear" for you:

allot - distribute: administer or bestow, as in small portions;

a lot - a dead metaphor, dull when spelled correctly, worse when misspelled alot. Passable in conversation as a substitute for much or many, it is better avoided in writing.

Allot is a word, but the context threw me. Your use of allot is at best a malaprop.


199 posted on 09/12/2005 8:29:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: notfondajane
I do appreciate Costco's book selection. They are very willing to carry conservative books.

Does Wal*Mart carry liberal political books?

200 posted on 09/12/2005 8:30:53 AM PDT by Michamilton
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