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Google Countersues Microsoft Over Hiring of Prized Research Engineer
Associated Press | July 22, 2005 | Michael Liedtke

Posted on 07/21/2005 10:07:34 PM PDT by HAL9000

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- Google Inc. countersued Microsoft Corp. Thursday in a legal battle over a prized research engineer that illustrates the escalating tensions between the technology titans.

The tussle began earlier this week after Google -- the maker of the Internet's most widely used search engine -- raided Microsoft's management ranks by hiring Kai Fu-Lee to open a new research and development office in China.

Redmond, Wash.-based Microsoft, the world's largest software maker, promptly sued Google and Lee in Washington state court, alleging a noncompete agreement that the engineer signed in 2000 prevented him from defecting.

Google retaliated with its own complaint in California seeking to override Microsoft's noncompete provision so it can retain Lee. In its suit, Mountain View-based Google contends the clause violates California laws giving workers the right to change jobs.

Microsoft's restriction is "clearly an illegal restraint of trade," Nicole Wong, Google's associate general counsel, said in an interview Thursday night. "Google is trying to create an environment for innovators. Microsoft is focused on litigation and intimidation."

Microsoft spokeswoman Stacy Drake McCredy described Google's complaint as a desperate act. "Microsoft is confident in our case and that Google's legal maneuvers will ultimately be rejected by the court," she said.

Google's hiring of Lee triggered a conflict because he had been working on Microsoft's efforts to improve its own search products as a vice president in the software company's interactive services division. He also had been helping Microsoft devise its China strategy.

In its complaint, Google argues California laws should apply because its headquarters -- and most of its nearly 4,200 workers -- are in the state. What's more, Google said Lee already is registered to vote in California, pays taxes in the state and plans to buy a Silicon Valley home.

But Google's initial announcement of Lee's hiring made it sound as if the engineer will be based in China, overseeing the company's new research office there.

"I look forward to returning to China to begin this exciting endeavor," Lee said in a Tuesday statement.

Lee signed his noncompete agreement in Washington, where he worked for Microsoft. Before joining Microsoft, Lee worked at two Silicon Valley companies, Silicon Graphics Inc. and Apple Computer Inc.

"Google is attempting to manufacture California residency for Dr. Lee in a poorly disguised effort to evade Washington law and renege on the agreement Dr. Lee made to Microsoft," Drake McCredy said.

As Google has grown more powerful since its inception in 1998, Microsoft has become increasingly determined to muscle its way into the lucrative search engine market with its own technology. The company unveiled its first internally developed search engine last year on its MSN.com site.

Until this week, Google had been publicly downplaying its rivalry with Microsoft, maintaining that the increased competition in the search engine industry would be good for everyone by fueling more innovation.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: china; convictedmonopoly; google; kaifulee; lawsuit; microsoft
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1 posted on 07/21/2005 10:07:35 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Non compete clauses usually have an expiration date. Not mentioned in this article. If it didn't have an expiration date, then, he's screwed, he shouldn't have signed it in that case.


2 posted on 07/21/2005 10:12:22 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: HAL9000

New R&D facility in China. Who'd a thunk it?


3 posted on 07/21/2005 10:13:53 PM PDT by FreedomAvatar (Gravity is only a theory - Teach the controversy)
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To: Indy Pendance

somewhere in my past, I came to learn that (legally) contracts must be finite to be enforceable.....they cannot be open-ended or forever.

Maybe I misunderstood, though.


4 posted on 07/21/2005 10:17:45 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Indy Pendance

Microsoft would have a hard time claiming Washington law applies, if he resides in California.


5 posted on 07/21/2005 10:22:18 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Non compete clauses usually have an expiration date. Not mentioned in this article. If it didn't have an expiration date, then, he's screwed, he shouldn't have signed it in that case.

I don't know anybody who's signed one who wasn't compensated for doing so; he received something in return for the noncompete.

And I'm thinking he "forgot" to tell Google about it, or they forgot to ask, and now they're scrambling to cover their butts.

6 posted on 07/21/2005 10:22:51 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: HAL9000

Google is a left-wing corporation anyway. Screw 'em.


7 posted on 07/21/2005 10:23:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: HAL9000
HA! HA!..Fat Chance, of any American Legal Agreement(s), having any legal force/power in Communist/Marxist Red China.
8 posted on 07/21/2005 10:24:20 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: Tax Government

... or if he claims California as his residence for tax and voting purposes, even if he is based overseas. It is his choice, not Microsoft's, to decide his state of residence.


9 posted on 07/21/2005 10:24:21 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
somewhere in my past, I came to learn that (legally) contracts must be finite to be enforceable.....they cannot be open-ended or forever.

Yep, more or less.

I always raise this issue with any idiot who dares to defend Socialist Security, the "social contract" or innumerable other examples of government bullsqueeze . . . . . "show me my signature, then show me the term and termination clauses, or STFU."

10 posted on 07/21/2005 10:25:00 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Tax Government
Microsoft would have a hard time claiming Washington law applies, if he resides in California.

Microsoft isn't stupid enough to write a non-compete only valid within Washington state; this is standard boilerplate in the big-company world.

11 posted on 07/21/2005 10:26:25 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I've heard that too, but try fighting microsoft on that. I'll bet they put in a 20 year clause or something just as unreasonable.


12 posted on 07/21/2005 10:32:17 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: skinkinthegrass

This thread could be combined with the thread about the Chinease trojon horse virus they use to steal information. U.S. News and World Report had a cover article about the growing China a few weeks ago. Microsoft and another company (intel?) haven't opened up shop there yet due to all the software piracy.

Other companies get pirated too (cellphones, insurance coverages are word-for-word, etc.) However, these other firms figure even if 10 times as many chinese buy a knock off, 1/10th of 1.5 billion people is still a large market. (obviously not all the Chinese are buying cellphones. However, the article said that soon (5-10 years?) - the buying class of China will equal the entire U.S. population.)


13 posted on 07/21/2005 10:33:34 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: Hank Rearden

I believe California law applies, and Microsoft is out of luck.


14 posted on 07/21/2005 10:33:59 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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To: Indy Pendance
Depends on the type of noncompete agreement. If the agreement is as MS says it is (he can't defect to another company), then the agreement is only valid (under U.S. law) for 7 years. Open ended contracts forcing a person to work for another company, here in the U.S., is considered to be endentured servitude. Not allowable beyond 7 years.

So, I would say that if there is no expiry date, then the contract is probably not enforceable.

However, the general, run of the mill noncompete is just an agreement to protect intellectual property. They do, in many cases, forbid employees from working for competitors, but are more designed to keep proprietary info from competitors.

Now, that said, I'd just like to state for the record that I'm not a lawyer. However, not too long ago, I remember following (very closely) a discussion which revolved around non-competes and intellectual property law.
15 posted on 07/21/2005 10:34:53 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: skinkinthegrass

Oh, my local paper (Seattle Times) said this guy was going to Taiwan. (The "other" China).


16 posted on 07/21/2005 10:36:01 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

It's been a while since I signed one. The term was for 6 months.


17 posted on 07/21/2005 10:36:01 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch

Your explanation sound good though.


18 posted on 07/21/2005 10:36:38 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Hank Rearden
Microsoft may have a case.

But Bill Gates is already complaining that he can't hire enough people, and this lawsuit will hurt Microsoft's efforts to recruit the best scientists and software engineers. Even the guys in China don't want to work for Gates now, so he's stuck with the current batch of mediocre Windows employees.

19 posted on 07/21/2005 10:38:10 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Suppose you or I were a candidate to work at Microsoft. What possible reason would there be to work there? (Looking to find just one reason.) :)


20 posted on 07/21/2005 10:45:18 PM PDT by Tax Government (Put down the judicial insurrection. Contribute to FR.)
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